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Thread: Three Years After Jon Gruden Return Raiders Still Spinning Their Wheels

  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by psly2124 View Post
    They've had more talent. Talent wins in the NFl. we were a 4-12 team with no talent. When the Chargers were a 4-12 team , 90% of the starters would start on the Raiders. The Chargers were 4-12 because of a terrible coach. KC has been good for close to a decade.
    KC has talent because they have A GM/coach that drafted most of thier team..Mahomes,Chris Jones, baby killer, kelce ect...weve got 5 1st round reaches and a average fuckin coach and a GM that should have stayed on NFL network...drafted a couple 3rd round projects this year and so on....So yes talent wins, but were still waiting on ours to develop..And Coach fisher has never built a team in his whole carrer
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    Gruden good at being a sports broadcaster, not good at running a team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garner25 View Post
    KC has talent because they have A GM/coach that drafted most of thier team..Mahomes,Chris Jones, baby killer, kelce ect...weve got 5 1st round reaches and a average fuckin coach and a GM that should have stayed on NFL network...drafted a couple 3rd round projects this year and so on....So yes talent wins, but were still waiting on ours to develop..And Coach fisher has never built a team in his whole carrer
    Have you seen KC's first round picks. You haven't because if you did you would know that they have is Mahomes and Clyde Edwards Helaire in the past 6 seasons. So how can they be successful with no first round picks. Out of 22 starters, KC drafted 9. Starters that KC drafted. Mahomes, Edwards Helaire, Hill, Kelce,Hardmon. Not 1 linemen. Niang was drafted last year and could possibly start. I didn't count him. On defense they drafted Jones, Nnadi, gay and Sneed.

    So when you go spouting off on how great KC drafts have been, look at the roster first
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    Watch the Raiders luck, if Aaron Rodgers goes to Denver, we could finish last in the Division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psly2124 View Post
    Have you seen KC's first round picks. You haven't because if you did you would know that they have is Mahomes and Clyde Edwards Helaire in the past 6 seasons. So how can they be successful with no first round picks. Out of 22 starters, KC drafted 9. Starters that KC drafted. Mahomes, Edwards Helaire, Hill, Kelce,Hardmon. Not 1 linemen. Niang was drafted last year and could possibly start. I didn't count him. On defense they drafted Jones, Nnadi, gay and Sneed.

    So when you go spouting off on how great KC drafts have been, look at the roster first
    Well they traded a few 1st rounders off also...So before you start spewing stuff yourself realize they have drafted light years better than us...every team has misses even the great teams..But show me the last time Bellicheck, Tomlin, Reid, Jon Harbagh ect..Who are some of the top coaches, that drafted a project like Bowden then trades him right away before he plays? Just some if Coach Fishers Genius on display...All of our 1st rounders up to this year are major reaches..Thats a fact...And Leatherwood is just the latest...Those were the picks to draft the core of our rebuild under Coach Fisher...Guess what a lifetime .500 coach has us as a continuious punch line come draft time..
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  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Garner25 View Post
    Well they traded a few 1st rounders off also...So before you start spewing stuff yourself realize they have drafted light years better than us...every team has misses even the great teams..But show me the last time Bellicheck, Tomlin, Reid, Jon Harbagh ect..Who are some of the top coaches, that drafted a project like Bowden then trades him right away before he plays? Just some if Coach Fishers Genius on display...All of our 1st rounders up to this year are major reaches..Thats a fact...And Leatherwood is just the latest...Those were the picks to draft the core of our rebuild under Coach Fisher...Guess what a lifetime .500 coach has us as a continuious punch line come draft time..
    Who cares about Bowden? FYI coaches don't draft players.
    Steelers first round draft picks that were "reaches". Both should have been third round picks at best.
    2016 Artie Burns
    2018 Terrell Edmunds

    Patriot Reaches the past 4 years
    Find me another coach that drafted two players in the third round. then spends 100 million signing free agents to those positions the following year
    2020
    Kyle Dugger
    Devin Asiasi
    Dalton Keene
    2018
    Duke Dawson
    2016
    Cyrus Jones
    Ravens reaches
    2021
    Adage Oweh
    2019
    Marquise Brown
    2018
    Haydedn Hurst
    2016
    Kameli Correa 2nd round and after two years and 12 total tackles as a LB he was traded for a 6th round pick.
    2015
    Maxx Williams
    Breshard Perriman

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    So your saying Coaches dont draft players??? Our lifetime carrer avg coach drafts our players...
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  8. #18
    And off the list of reaches for the other teams, did any of those reaches get traded before they even played a down???
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  9. #19
    Reggie McKenzie had us in the playoffs in year 5....Coach Fisher better hurry up.
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  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Garner25 View Post
    Reggie McKenzie had us in the playoffs in year 5....Coach Fisher better hurry up.
    ...plus Mumbles had how much dead money on the cap his first year, and his top pick was a comp pick. Coach Fisher was living in luxury compared to Reggie Mac.

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