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Thread: Based on our preseason moves, I think we can agree that not taking Leinart was stupid

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    I think Huff in our secondary makes that unit better. Anyone else would make it as weak as it was last year, despite the turnover improvement.

    As for Leinart and even Cutler, the last time we invested our stock on a rookie or very young QB was Marinovich. After him there was Jeff Hostetler, Jeff George, Rich Gannon, Kerry Collins and now Aaron Brooks, all through free agency or trade within the last 13 years. Before Marinovich, we got Jay Shroeder from the Redskins. Before that, Plunkett from San Francisco. Our history, relying on a young or rookie QB, doesn't happen very often. We usually go out and find one that needs a revival, as all five of the QBs I mentioned needed. As we proved in the past, QBs can be found through free agencyand be very successful. Jay Schreoder led us to the conference title game. Hostetler led us to a playoff berth. We all know what Gannon did. If our '97 team had a decent defense, then Jeff George's 3900 yards, 29 TDs and 9 INTs would've led us to the playoffs too. Collins was a victim of a bad coach and even worse line to protect him.

    The only bad side to this is that there is no 10-year plan with those QBs. They can be here for 5, maybe 7 years, but for those last few years, they will be past their prime.

    Al Davis just isn't used to it, but he probably would've taken Leinart if Derrick Gibson was any good. And if he drafted Leinart, he probably still would've gotten Aaron Brooks as insurance if Leinart sucked in training camp, and vice versa if Brooks stunk it up.

    Huff was the wise choice. You'll see it in the stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilspawn
    I think Huff in our secondary makes that unit better. Anyone else would make it as weak as it was last year, despite the turnover improvement.

    As for Leinart and even Cutler, the last time we invested our stock on a rookie or very young QB was Marinovich. After him there was Jeff Hostetler, Jeff George, Rich Gannon, Kerry Collins and now Aaron Brooks, all through free agency within the last 13 years. Before Marinovich, we got Jay Shroeder from the Redskins. Before that, Plunkett from New England. Our history, relying on a young or rookie QB, doesn't happen very often. We usually go out and find one that needs a revival, as all five of the QBs I mentioned needed. As we proved in the past, QBs can be found through free agencyand be very successful. Jay Schreoder led us to the conference title game. Hostetler led us to a playoff berth. We all know what Gannon did. If our '97 team had a decentdefense, then Jeff George's 3900 yards, 29 TDs and 9 INTs would've led us to the playoffs too. Collins was a victim of a bad coach and even worse line to protect him.

    The only bad side to this is that there is no 10-year plan with those QBs. They can be here for 5, maybe 7 years, but for those last few years, they will be past their prime.

    Al Davis just isn't used to it, but he probably would've taken Leinart if Derrick Gibson was any good. And if he drafted Leinart, he probably still would've gotten Aaron Brooks as insurance if Leinart sucked in training camp, and vice versa if Brooks stunk it up.

    Huff was the wise choice. You'll see it in the stats.

    You need to post more bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCRaider
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    Perhaps in a similar light: you dont understand why the chargers let Brees go, same goes for a charger fan on the outside looking at the raiders wondering why they didnt pick up Leinert. Makes no sense to me, granted you guys are hurting in all positions across the board, unlike the chargers....who are stacked :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Monkey
    Perhaps in a similar light: you dont understand why the chargers let Brees go, same goes for a charger fan on the outside looking at the raiders wondering why they didnt pick up Leinert. Makes no sense to me, granted you guys are hurting in all positions across the board, unlike the chargers....who are stacked :p
    Yeah, the Chargers are stacked at QB. Three QB's, zero NFL starts.

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    Leinert would have been a disaster in your system. Your O-line cannot protect a pocket passer like Leinert. And why would you want a weak armed Leinert for your vertical offense.

    Cutler would have made better sense for you because he is more mobile than Leinert and has a stronger arm.

    Huff was a good choice because he should be an instant playmaker in your defense. Safeties have a lower bust rate than QBs and can contribute right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imasmashu
    Go look at our defensive stats the last 3 years...then look at our QB situation. We drafted Walter to fill that future spot. This teams is all about loyalty.
    Huff is a playmaker...he was the right move.

    Walter can be great, but he will have to be developed. I think 2-3 years as a backup will prove a good investment.

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