I Smoke Camels - What's Our Bet?

**Blackened** · 08-30-2006, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by RaiderDee

Damn...a diatribe from hell! So, in a circumventive sort of way, are you saying that you're in?

errr..I'm in.

**LINQ** · 08-31-2006, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Blackened

I want to make it perfectly clear what I do not intend to do in this post before I carry on with what I do wish to accomplish with it. What follows is a series of remarks addressed to the readers of this post and to I Smoke Camels himself. I sincerely can't stress this enough, but if he wants to be taken seriously, he should counter the arguments in this post with facts, not illogical panaceas, personal anecdotes, or insults. I believe I have found my calling. My calling is to build a world overflowing with compassion and tolerance. And just let him try and stop me. I Smoke Camels claims that he, and the Sparklers are the best thing to come along since the invention of sliced bread. Well, I beg to differ.

At the risk of sounding hopelessly disaffected-to-the-core, I Smoke Camels knows how to lie. It's too bad he doesn't yet understand the ramifications of lying. Whenever I ponder over the meanings and implications of his merciless protests, I feel little peace. He and his doctrinaire apparatchiks must laugh about this in private, knowing that he has frequently been spotted making nicey-nice with unsympathetic pip-squeaks ie: the UT board. Is this because he needs their help to bribe the parasitic with the earnings of the productive? Well, I'm sure I Smoke Camels would rather create division in the name of diversity than answer that particular question.

I Smoke Camels's stubborn epithets manipulate everything and everybody. News of this deviousness must spread like wildfire if we are ever to take steps against the whole devious brotherhood of amateurish oafs. I Smoke Camels can't fool me. I've met pathological cheapskates before, so I know that I Smoke Camels intends to create a new social class. Ghastly, crapulous libertines, feckless New Age gauleiters, and wicked gasbags will be given aristocratic status. The rest of us will be forced into serving as their allies. Let me close where I began: I Smoke Camels seems to be expressing an irrational preference for remaining in some previous century while the rest of the world hurtles forward. The point I am alluding to will be evident to all on September eleventh.

Someone just got owned. In the same sort of way the Sparklers will own the cellar this year...utterly and completely, beyond all doubt.

**The Crux** · 08-31-2006, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Blackened

I want to make it perfectly clear what I do not intend to do in this post before I carry on with what I do wish to accomplish with it. What follows is a series of remarks addressed to the readers of this post and to I Smoke Camels himself. I sincerely can't stress this enough, but if he wants to be taken seriously, he should counter the arguments in this post with facts, not illogical panaceas, personal anecdotes, or insults. I believe I have found my calling. My calling is to build a world overflowing with compassion and tolerance. And just let him try and stop me. I Smoke Camels claims that he, and the Sparklers are the best thing to come along since the invention of sliced bread. Well, I beg to differ.

A world of compassion and tolerance.....Sounds like an excellent deal. It's nice to see a liberal mind that still dresses up like a blood-thirsty Darth Vader on Sundays....You've got that night and day thing going for you....

Half the time you're Yoko Ono, the other half...you're Paul Reubens...I respect that. Do I fear that?....Well, no....but I'm sure it's got the family talking.

As for the best thing since sliced bread....What real fan doesn't think their teams is the best thing since sliced bread....It's called "passion", yet I don't let that cloud my mind like some of the delusional homers running amuck on the smack board....but let me respond on your terms. You've shot an arrow across my proverbial bow, and I will parry....

Originally Posted by Blackened

At the risk of sounding hopelessly disaffected-to-the-core, I Smoke Camels knows how to lie. It's too bad he doesn't yet understand the ramifications of lying. Whenever I ponder over the meanings and implications of his merciless protests, I feel little peace. He and his doctrinaire apparatchiks must laugh about this in private, knowing that he has frequently been spotted making nicey-nice with unsympathetic pip-squeaks ie: the UT board. Is this because he needs their help to bribe the parasitic with the earnings of the productive? Well, I'm sure I Smoke Camels would rather create division in the name of diversity than answer that particular question.

Show me where I apprise on the UT board.....Link please? Show me where I kibitz the Raiderfans.net team?....Link please? I've never lied on this board....rather, my posts are routinely passed over because of the complexities involved in disentangling them....You simply have to have a little pedigree, son....A little football IQ that can withstand the barrage of catechisms I dislodge on your milquetoast-loving ass.....Division versus Diversity....This board has it's dispensation of both. I
obviously am a champion of diveristy, but a little scintilla of division makes for intriguing raillery.

Originally Posted by Blackened

I Smoke Camels's stubborn epithets manipulate everything and everybody. News of this deviousness must spread like wildfire if we are ever to take steps against the whole devious brotherhood of amateurish oafs. I Smoke Camels can't fool me. I've met pathological cheapskates before, so I know that I Smoke Camels intends to create a new social class. Ghastly, crapulous libertines, feckless New Age gauleiters, and wicked gasbags will be given aristocratic status. The rest of us will be forced into serving as their allies. Let me close where I began: I Smoke Camels seems to be expressing an irrational preference for remaining in some previous century while the rest of the world hurtles forward. The point I am alluding to will be evident to all on September eleventh.

So start an "I hate I Smoke Camels" faction...Take it to the streets my puerile philistine...Do you really need the Doobie Brothers to buoy you?..You know you're "capital" when you have official organizations emanating from the loam to extinguish your reverent justice. I take offense to your assertation that I live in a previous century....You know that's quite an antipodal position.....I'm as forward-thinking as there are. Anytime I try to chatter about the present-day success in San Diego in reference to...our football team lambasting the team from the East Bay, I get referred to the mythical three laurels won literally centuries ago...long before the modern football era, and in the times of a decrepit, yet previously-powerful Russian society....

Your rhetoric is the elucidation of stagnant. Vie once more....

**The Crux** · 08-31-2006, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by LINQ0311

Someone just got owned. In the same sort of way the Sparklers will own the cellar this year...utterly and completely, beyond all doubt.

Hush little parrot....

**Blackened** · 08-31-2006, 10:03 AM

In my last post, I claimed that I Smoke Camels has garnered enough support to level filth and slime at everyone opposed to his press releases but not enough support to heat the cauldron of terror until it boils over into our daily lives, and that claim is even more true now. The full truth of my conclusion I shall develop in the course of this post but the conclusion's general outline is that if you don't think that he was rather wide of the mark when he hinted that cannibalism, wife-swapping, and the murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior, then you've missed the whole point of this letter. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Of course, if I Smoke Camels had learned anything from history, he'd know that he contends that the Chargers are spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. Excuse me, but where exactly did this little factoid come from? I alluded to this earlier, but this is a transparent attempt to turn positions of leadership into positions of complacency. In fact, I have said that to I Smoke Camels on many occasions and I will keep on saying it until he stops trying to create an ideological climate that will enable him to deny us the opportunity to show principle, gumption, verve, and nerve.

If you want to clear up these muddied waters with some reality, then tell everyone you know the truth, that as our society continues to unravel, more and more people will be grasping for straws, grasping for something to hold onto, grasping for something that promises to give them the sense of security and certainty that they so desperately need. These are the kinds of people I Smoke Camels preys upon. A colleague recently informed me that a bunch of drossy pinheads on the Charger board and others in I Smoke Camels's amen corner are about to extirpate the very things that I sincerely cherish. I have no reason to doubt that story because it strikes me as amusing that I Smoke Camels complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! He does nothing but complain. As that last sentence suggests, he has planted his comrades everywhere. You can find them in businesses, unions, activist organizations, tax-exempt foundations, professional societies, movies, schools, churches, and so on. Not only does this subversive approach enhance I Smoke Camels's ability to stonewall on issues in which Raiderfans see a vital public interest but it also provides irrefutable evidence that if he wanted to, he could enshrine irrational fears and fancies as truth. He could turn once-flourishing neighborhoods into zones of violence, decay, and moral disregard. And he could feed on the politics of resentment, alienation, frustration, anger, and fear. We must decidedly not allow I Smoke Camels to do any of these. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to detect the subtext of this post. But just in case it's too subliminal for some, let me thrust it into your face right here: I am making a pretty serious accusation here. I am accusing I Smoke Camels of planning to divert our attention from serious issues. Issues that will be resolved on the eleventh of September. And I don't want anyone to think that I am basing my accusation only on the fact that we must enable patriots to use their freedoms to save their freedoms. If we fail in this, we are not failing someone else; we are not disrupting some interest separate from ourselves. Rather, it is we who suffer when we neglect to observe that I'm oversimplifying things a little here. Still, I recommend you check out some of I Smoke Camels's cajoleries and draw your own conclusions on the matter. Once, just once, I'd like to see I Smoke Camels's trained seals reach the broadest possible audience with the message that I Smoke Camels should just face the facts. But until they do that (if they ever do that), we must realize that I am astonished by how little integrity and good judgment I Smoke Camels possesses. It follows from this that all the predictions he makes are strictly one-way. I Smoke Camels gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations.

Some people are responsible and others are not. I Smoke Camels falls into the category of "not". When all discoverable facts and experience fly in the face of his unpatriotic world view, he stubbornly holds onto his ignorance as his birthright. Now that that's cleared up, I'll continue with what I was saying before, that when some uncompromising pikers first introduced me to his parasitic, antihumanist plaints, I felt that civilization had reached a nadir of bleakness. That said, let me continue. In closing, it is important to realize that I Smoke Camels's outbursts are bottomlessly bad.

**LINQ** · 08-31-2006, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by I Smoke Camels

Hush little parrot....

I just think it's funny he exposed you. I don't waste my time personally since I believe anyone with half a brain and the ability to read can see the truth for themselves.

And there is no challenge in attempting to "Own" one such as yourself, or any other Sparkler fan for that matter.

The point being that YOU are on a Raider board, trying to console yourselves by saying "Hey Raider fans, we may suck, but at least we beat you last year!"

I think you should enjoy the few years the Sparklers have gotten over on the Raiders, since historically it's not likely to happen very much, and the direction of hosting cities and ownership don't promise much for any organization in the San Diego area.

But if it makes you feel better to wallow in your wins, your ability to kick us when we are down, then by all means go right ahead. I know you will be long gone from this site once your team shows it's true colors again.

336-364-11

I only see this getting worse. Sorry.

**OTF** · 08-31-2006, 12:49 PM

I'm in!!! Already got a sig up my sleave for Chargers when they lose...

Is someone keeping a running list of who is in? Also I hope all of these Charger fans don't run away with their tail tucked... You want to come and talk, do it on Sept 12th!

**punkedagain** · 08-31-2006, 04:16 PM

Doesn't anyone get the point? It doesn't matter for squat that LINQ0311 needs to calm down and realize that it is our intent to point out the glaring contradiction between his idealized view of Raiderism and reality. What's far more relevant is that his emissaries do not accept the fact that his diatribes are a textbook example of distortion and deceit. So, without further ado, I present you with this all-important piece of information: He keeps saying that divine ichor flows through his veins. Isn't that claim getting a little shopworn? I mean, I find his ****-and-bull stories jejune, unsavory, villainous, and more than a little intellectually challenged. Once we realize that, what do we do? The appropriate thing, in my judgment, is to fight tooth and nail against LINQ0311. I say that because if one accepts the framework I've laid out here, it follows that he says that violence and prejudice are funny. What balderdash! What impudence! What treachery!

If a cogent, logical argument entered LINQ0311's brain, no doubt a concussion would result. LINQ0311 parrots whatever ideas are fashionable at the moment. When the fashions change, his ideas will change instantly, like a weather****.

What is the milieu in which what I call insensitive Raiderism enthusiasts use cheap, intemperate propaganda to arouse the passions of offensive, fatuitous scrubs? It is the underworld of conspiracy theory, a subculture in which puerile barmpots share fantasies of fighting heroically against a huge conspiracy that will declare that taxpayers are a magic purse that never runs out of gold as soon as our backs are turned.

LINQ0311's tactics are more than just nugatory. They're a revolt against nature. What is often overlooked, however, is that LINQ0311 uses the word "sparkler" without ever having taken the time to look it up in the dictionary. People who are too lazy to get their basic terms right should be ignored, not debated. Whenever he announces that his ventures are good for the the Raiders, football, and baby seals, his backers applaud on cue and the accolades are long and ostentatious. What's funny is that they don't provide similar feedback whenever I tell them that I have a tendency to report the more sensational things that LINQ0311 is up to, the more shocking things, things like how he wants to utilize questionable and illegal football techniques. And I realize the difficulty that the average person has in coming to grips with that, but he can't attack our superior team, so he attacks Charger fans. It could be worse, I suppose. LINQ0311 could jawbone aimlessly. Here's an extraordinary paradox: All of the unambitious rotters who shouldn't be allowed to force onto us the degradation and ignominy that LINQ0311 is known to revel in invariably want to. Simply put, we could opt to sit back and let him set the hoops through which we all must jump. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part.

The poisonous wine of philistinism had been distilled long before LINQ0311 entered the scene. LINQ0311 is merely the agent decanting the poisonous fluid from its bottle into the jug that is world humanity. We must work together to begin the debate about his hijinks. What can you do to help? For starters, you might want to recall the ideals of compassion, nonviolence, community, and cooperation. I personally derive great satisfaction in doing that sort of thing because I unmistakably don't believe that everyone and everything discriminates against LINQ0311 -- including the writing on the bathroom stalls. So when he says that that's what we believe, I see how little he understands our position. As I see it, he is firmly convinced that he can convince criminals to fill out an application form before committing a crime. His belief is controverted, however, by the weight of the evidence indicating that we should agree on definitions before saying anything further about LINQ0311's presumptuous equivocations. For starters, let's say that "smack" is "that which makes LINQ0311 yearn to censor by caricature and preempt discussion by stereotype." I'll end this letter with a personal invitation to LINQ0311 himself: If you care to respond to what I wrote, please do, especially if you think that I am being inaccurate or unfair. I do not wish to misrepresent you in any way whatsoever. Pax vobiscum.

**Chargerboy** · 08-31-2006, 06:43 PM

this is weak, just curious, why not the whole season or until we play again? thats a mans bet

**punkedagain** · 08-31-2006, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Chargerboy

this is weak, just curious, why not the whole season or until we play again? thats a mans bet

Because it's the standard bet and it's boring to obsess over the same team all year for either side. You don't see me in here posting and talking smack for months before and after our games, I

errr wait a minute

**Arch Monkey** · 08-31-2006, 07:29 PM

Ill do a sig bet. but you cant welch on it.

fair enough? anybody? R8terfox? DarthRaider? Raidertrekkie? SpaceRaider?

**Blackened** · 08-31-2006, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Arch Monkey

Ill do a sig bet. but you cant welch on it.

fair enough? anybody? R8terfox? DarthRaider? Raidertrekkie? SpaceRaider?

Who?

**Arch Monkey** · 08-31-2006, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Blackened

Who?

SPACE MONKEY! Shipped into space to better humanity... oh wait wrong forum, there is none of that quality here.

Anybody with a space trek name will do.

Here is the sig et : you ditch your space trek sig and get a Mighty Morphine power Raider sig ( trust me it will blend right in with all the RPG geeks here) and I will take ANY sig of your choice. game?

**Arch Monkey** · 08-31-2006, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Arch Monkey

SPACE MONKEY! Shipped into space to better humanity... oh wait wrong forum, there is none of that quality here.

Anybody with a space trek name will do.

Here is the sig et : you ditch your space trek sig and get a Mighty Morphine power Raider sig ( trust me it will blend right in with all the RPG geeks here) and I will take ANY sig of your choice. game?

No response. not surprised. your team sucks. BADLY.