Answer me this....

[SaintsFanMan]

How come the Raiders are one of the most penaltized teams in the NFL.

[LOUISVILLE R8R]

Because We Hit Hard And The Other Pussy Teams Out There Complain Like Little B#tches!lol

[Archimedes Owl]

Originally Posted by LOUISVILLE R8R

Because We Hit Hard And The Other Pussy Teams Out There Complain Like Little B#tches!lol

Maybe in the seventies that was the reason.

It's more like you lack discipline. Hitting hard has nothing to do with racking up false starts and holding penalties.

What's funny about that is that the Raiders expect Art Shell to bring them discipline, but your worst years penalty wise came under Art Shell before.

Being tough is fine and we all love great hits, but that's not why you guys have been penalty prone.

[Devilspawn]

Originally Posted by Archimedes Owl

Maybe in the seventies that was the reason.

It's more like you lack discipline. Hitting hard has nothing to do with racking up false starts and holding penalties.

What's funny about that is that the Raiders expect Art Shell to bring them discipline, but your worst years penalty wise came under Art Shell before.

Being tough is fine and we all love great hits, but that's not why you guys have been penalty prone.

Plus, when you're a winning team like Madden's teams were, being penalized was an afterthought. Even madden said it himself, he didn't mind aggressive penalties. You make it up on the next set of downs. It's stupid penalties, the false starts and offsides that get frustrating. I still remember Howie Long jumping offsides 2 or 3 times in the 93 divisional playoff game as the Bills drove for the winning score. They may have scored anyway, but Long made their job easier. Those are stupid penalties (Sorry Howie, but you blew it that drive.)

But the hits of a Tatum, mauling a QB to the ground, ripping off helmets, that was Raider football that rarely, if ever, cost us a game. Knoll called tghe Raiders secondary a "criminal element." All it did was add to the legend. We set a tone: We're coming after you hard and we're going to beat you despite the rules.

Art's teams still had success with the penalties but in some cases, especially against teams that are better than you, 15 yards might as well be a 50 yard bomb.

[Archimedes Owl]

Originally Posted by Devilspawn

Plus, when you're a winning team like Madden's teams were, being penalized was an afterthought. Even madden said it himself, he didn't mind aggressive penalties. You make it up on the next set of downs. It's stupid penalties, the false starts and offsides that get frustrating. I still remember Howie Long jumping offsides 2 or 3 times in the 93 divisional playoff game as the Bills drove for the winning score. They may have scored anyway, but Long made their job easier. Those are stupid penalties (Sorry Howie, but you blew it that drive.)

But the hits of a Tatum, mauling a QB to the ground, ripping off helmets, that was Raider football that rarely, if ever, cost us a game. Knoll called tghe Raiders secondary a "criminal element." All it did was add to the legend. We set a tone: We're coming after you hard and we're going to beat you despite the rules.

Art's teams still had success with the penalties but in some cases, especially against teams that are better than you, 15 yards might as well be a 50 yard bomb.

I HATE the way that the NFL has gone rule-wise lately. They make it so it's pretty much illegal to hit a reciever or a QB. That's a sad day. I miss the days when Atwater used to be able to level opposing recievers and it wouldn't get us a 15 yard penalty. We still have that kind of with Lynch. He'll still level a reciever, but it'll get us a penalty and him a fine and that just sucks. It's bad for the game.

Sure, we want to protect our players, but we aren't playing tennis here. We also want to see some hitting.

[SdChargeHer]

I think it is punishment for Jack Tatum never apologizing to the guy he paralyzed for life. It is only a game and tatum was a thug then and a classless old hack now. I could respect his game if I considered him a man.

[OG BAMM BAMM]

Originally Posted by SdChargeHer

I think it is punishment for Jack Tatum never apologizing to the guy he paralyzed for life. It is only a game and tatum was a thug then and a classless old hack now. I could respect his game if I considered him a man.

you have no clue about football do you?

[SaintsFanMan]

Can't play like this anymore. One of my all time favorites. Why isn't he in the HOF?

[toobs cruiser]

Originally Posted by OG BAMM BAMM

you have no clue about football do you?

Would he be a Charger fan if he did?

[Sonic Raider]

Originally Posted by LOUISVILLE R8R

Because We Hit Hard And The Other Pussy Teams Out There Complain Like Little B#tches!lol

Originally Posted by Archimedes Owl

I HATE the way that the NFL has gone rule-wise lately. They make it so it's pretty much illegal to hit a reciever or a QB. That's a sad day. I miss the days when Atwater used to be able to level opposing recievers and it wouldn't get us a 15 yard penalty. We still have that kind of with Lynch. He'll still level a reciever, but it'll get us a penalty and him a fine and that just sucks. It's bad for the game.

Sure, we want to protect our players, but we aren't playing tennis here. We also want to see some hitting.

We just simply have to try and adjust to the new "politically correct" rules of the NFL