Grade your offseason

[ccRaider]

Wow Mike, your first post surprised me by being 100% football, with a nice little slap at the end. That was a great smack forum post. We could use more like that.

Then you come right back with the jr. high stuff. That's not worth responding to.

But I WILL grade our off-season. So far I'd say it's............INCOMPLETE. As far as my limited football knowledge goes, I think we're STILL in the off-season. Maybe you fell through some cross-dressing rocky horror picture show time warp and are in some bizarro future world, but I'm going to wait until the dealing is done before I 'grade' the off-season moves.

[Extra Stout]

Again, I am confused as to why a Whiners fan would spend so much time on a Raiders' forum, where he keeps starting new threads that have no apparent meaning or merit. We get occassional visits from fans of other teams -- the Chiefs, Broncos, Dolts, Bengals, etc. -- but Mike-49er seems obsessed.

[ccRaider]

He's on Raider boards everywhere. Obsessed sounds about right.

[Mike-49er]

Originally Posted by EasyRaider

Never knew there was a ranking system on off season transactions or is it the fact that this is how deep you must dig to try and prove to yourself that your team is better than the raiders?

It was a simple question with two fold results. Some actually posted how they feel their offseason has gone so far. Others, like you, come on and whine about the fact that it flusters you that you have to deal with the question. Apparently you don't have any thoughts regarding it, yet, are instead obsessed with wimpering on and on about me posting here. It's the smack forum..get home to raider talk where you won't hurt yourself.

Stop now before you really look like the ass that you see every day in the mirror... well it might be to late for that.

Juvenile..and going down. Are you serious? Geez..read that again, and tell me that isn't the best you have? I have a 13 year..maybe you two can play together.

Come on I can see this type of banter coming from a team that has not won a superbowl but really , think how pathetic you must look to the other whiner fans out there, on second thought you said they kicked you out of that forum also right? Its to late for that to.

No, whining fool that you be..didn't get kicked out of any forum. Are you confused? apparently, obviously so. Confused and dim is a hell of a way to go through life. As far as "you can see it if"?? Oh, so what you're saying is because the Raiders lost, your huevos shrunk up? Sorry to hear that. See, I don't need my team to win to smack on Raider fans, or Ram fans. You, on the other hand apparently believe when the Raiders do great, you feel great..when they suck, you suck. Sad, isn't it? Not for me, whining fool that you be..win or lose, I GO TO THE GAMES..win or lose, I still smack on whining tools like you.

Oh well I guess its a free forum so you can stay as long as you follow the rules right? Keep digging up all these trivial numbers and theories just so you can tell your self "we really aren't in that bad a shape if you think of it this way". Oh and how many of your quarterbacks rode the bench last year or was that the organizations intentions...to play Musical QB's?

And you may feel free to grow a pair and pretend they've dropped. In the event that happens, then refute something. Otherwise, shut the hell up, and quit embarrassing other raider fans that actually have an opinion.

Amazing on how many posters here get so flustered at seeing the sight of anything 49er. Just get a crying towel, a BIG ONE, and pass it around to those that can't stop blubbering about that big Meany Mike, lol...

[stork44]

Not workin' the corner tonite sweetheart???????

[Mike-49er]

Originally Posted by Extra Stout

Again, I am confused as to why a Whiners fan would spend so much time on a Raiders' forum, where he keeps starting new threads that have no apparent meaning or merit. We get occassional visits from fans of other teams -- the Chiefs, Broncos, Dolts, Bengals, etc. -- but Mike-49er seems obsessed.

Not again..always. You scream confused, and you blather intimidated, and obsessed. I'm posting on our cross town rivals smack forum..and HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS..and you, idiot that you insist on being, have stated nothing except come on here a hand ful of times whining about 'why are you here"??

I'm your worst nightmare..I'm the guy that makes you feel inadequate. I'm the one you wish, just once, you could say something to that doesn't have you looking like a slapped on child. Now, you are welcome to whine all you want, just as I'm free to point out how incredibly pathetic you are.

You know..just for you..I think I'll start a couple of more threads

[Mike-49er]

Originally Posted by stork44

Not workin' the corner tonite sweetheart???????

I am, if nothing else, accomodating.

Considering the Niners share the bay with the raiders..it's the least I can do.

[d-mac37]

Originally Posted by stork44

Not workin' the corner tonite sweetheart???????

Day shift.........

[Mike-49er]

Originally Posted by ccRaider

He's on Raider boards everywhere. Obsessed sounds about right.

Everywhere? describe "everywhere"..I post here and on fanhome raiders..that's it, lol..geez. What? are you following me? Talk about obsessed..look at you two.
You guys want a picture as well?

Cost ya..big bucks.

[stork44]

Originally Posted by d-mac37

Day shift.........

Jeez.....looks like Mikey likes double cheeseburgers.....dig in cowboy!!!

[UC]

Originally Posted by Mike-49er

Well, it could be better..but it could be a lot worse.

We let go a small, undersized disruption in Lloyd.
Let go Carter, our pass rusher who doesn't pass rush.
We lost Petersen, who I would have liked to keep, who, since his injury has not played anywhere near his previous level. "Hawks vastly overpaid.
And we let Fred Beaseley go, who was benched early last season, and knew he was on the way out.

We added Larry Allen, who is now our left guard, playing between Jonas Jennings, a very good tackle, and arguably the best center in the league (when healthy) Newberry. Signing Allen let Smiley go back to his position at right guard. Heitman and Bass are both backup guards and backup center.
Hmmm..it appears our line just went to quite respectable, doesn't it?

We also signed WR's Antonio Bryant, and Bryan Gilmore, improving over the departed Lloyd.

Signed CB Walt Harris from Washington.

Have 11 picks in the upcoming draft, that is fat with WR's and defense. Not bad so far.

Let me see what the Raiders have done, so far.

Hmmm..Brooks signed, who was benched by the Saints.

Tyrone Poole, cb, from NE.

Starks, cb, from NE.

Lost your nose tackle Washington.
Lost DB Hill.

Well..what say you?

Wouldn't exactly say that you guys are filling any holes, would you?

I know..ABC..anybody but Collins for your qb..but is that what you're reduced to? "it's better..oh well"?

Starks?? the walking bandaid? gets hurt shaving?

Whew..looks like you guys are hoping for a windfall of draft picks that will just step right in and contribute.

Hmm.;.. THe Niners have no replacements for Petersen or Carter. Seems kinda like they lost out even if they aren't what they once were.

Lloyd was your only decent receiver... Wait!!! Stop the press!!! You guys signed Antonio Bryant and Brian Gilmore!?!?!

SO Larry Allen has made your whole line respectable? Jonas Jennings proved nothing last season besides how a fat man eats a contract while getting injured on the job. So, he is going to be 100% healthy next season, why? Same cross applies to Newberry who is chronically injured and has a shredded knee. But, he is arguably the best at what he does!!! (4 years ago...)

Smiley is serviceable but definetly not anything more. Looks like you left LT out of your analysis, but thats okay! Your line is respectable with **** of nobody to cover your crap ass QB's blindside!!!

CB Walt Harris? I would rather have Tyrone Poole and I expect Duane Starks to be cut after training camp. Walt Harris has NEVER lived up to his potential and is a back up at best. Good luck on that one...

Brooks was benched by the Saints... so? Alex Smith had one touchdown pass ALL OF LAST SEASON! Don't you go spoutin nothin about QB;s...

Washington was let go because he had a hefty salary and we need a youth movement at the position. Who do you guys have at DT? Anthony Adams?

And you think 11 draft picks will win you games? Your rookies last season and the season before could not win games... You guys have the biggest QB bust since Ryan Leaf, with no WR's of note, a pass catching TE who can not block when he is healthy to play, an offensive line that you have so used hyperbole upon and a coach who wants to dress like a priest on SUndays...

Your defense is weak across the line, save Bryant Young, you have no LB's of note with the loss of Petersen and Carter, your DB's are led by... who? Shawntae Spencer and Walt Harris

Look, exercise your enate responsibility to act like an ass and make yourself look like a fool... it is quite funny.

[Dylan Baboth]

Originally Posted by Mike-49er

Everywhere? describe "everywhere"..I post here and on fanhome raiders..that's it, lol..geez. What? are you following me? Talk about obsessed..look at you two.
You guys want a picture as well?

Cost ya..big bucks.

your a 49er fan and you are making fun of the Raiders....

[Mike-49er]

Originally Posted by UCRaider

Hmm.;.. THe Niners have no replacements for Petersen or Carter. Seems kinda like they lost out even if they aren't what they once were.

as compared to YOUR replacements for Woodson, Washington, and Hill? Oh..that's right..you're going with the "youth movement". You have NO ONE to put in, in that "youth movement". Petersen was not worth the money he would have received, plain and simple.

Lloyd was your only decent receiver... Wait!!! Stop the press!!! You guys signed Antonio Bryant and Brian Gilmore!?!?!

Lloyd has NEVER been anything but overhyped. Unlike the Raiders, we get rid of those that don't fit. Now, the Raiders, on the other hand, take a Randy Moss, and drag him down to your level. By the end of the year, he looked like crap, played like crap, and was very obvious he could care less. Of course, he played on a crap offense. Now, while you make jokes about our lack of talent, your paper talent had the same results as the niners. Yeah, for some reason, on the field, the Raiders just play like crap, and drag formerly good players down to their level. yeah, that works..BTW..the whole AFC West is drooling at playing you again, next year. Why? Because not only have you don't NOTHING in the offseason, the quietest team in the league, you ended the year looking like crap. That's good news for the AFC West..hell, that's good news for everyone you play.

SO Larry Allen has made your whole line respectable? Jonas Jennings proved nothing last season besides how a fat man eats a contract while getting injured on the job.

Stupid comment. Fat man? what are you talking about? go read up, then come back and attempt a reply.

So, he is going to be 100% healthy next season, why?

why wouldn't he be? He's healed completely. [/quote] Same cross applies to Newberry who is chronically injured and has a shredded knee. But, he is arguably the best at what he does!!! (4 years ago...) [/quote] Guess you should read up. go search on Newberry's surgery, and read what was done, when, and how he's feeling. He ended the season early last year just to get the microsurgery done. Sorry to report to you, it's gone excellent. Last year he knew he wouldn't complete the year without surgery. Now, he and the team expect him to play at 100%. Again..sorry about that. Regardless if he's in or not, if it's Heitmann as center, Allen as LG and Jennings as LT, that is a hell of a lot better than that porous joke of a line the Raiders fielded, and are going to field. hell..now..pay attention..you've DONE NOTHING, AND YOU ENDED THE YEAR LOOKING LIKE TOTAL CRAP. And what can you deduce from this, on your own? lol..take your time..ask around..let me help..another **** line protecting another **** qb. Kind of gives ya warm and fuzzies, doesn't it?

Smiley is serviceable but definetly not anything more. Looks like you left LT out of your analysis, but thats okay! Your line is respectable with **** of nobody to cover your crap ass QB's blindside!!!

As usual, you're confused. LT?? Jennings is left tackle. Harris is right tackle. Save the idiot takes about crap ass qb's and sorry lines. The raiders starters have redefined the term "crap ass offense". Hell, you release Collins...TO SIGN BROOKS?? yeah..that's me..ROFLMFAO. Let me guess? Katrina?? again..ROFLMFAO.

CB Walt Harris? I would rather have Tyrone Poole and I expect Duane Starks to be cut after training camp. Walt Harris has NEVER lived up to his potential and is a back up at best. Good luck on that one...

You have two guys that can't stay off of injured reserve. Poole?? geez..another sorry comparison. And no, Starks won't be cut after training camp..it's the raiders. to cut him would make sense. Again..it's the Raiders. Common sense is never part of the equation. See "Davis signs Shell"..see.."New OC is Walsh". Mind boggling, isn't it? lol..

Brooks was benched by the Saints... so? Alex Smith had one touchdown pass ALL OF LAST SEASON! Don't you go spoutin nothin about QB;s...

Sure I will. Watch. Smith just came out of college. had he stayed he would have been a junior..with me so far? Gets thrown in behind a O line where the LT, center, and guard are on IR..couple of games had zero starters playing on the line (yeah, yeah, I know..."wahhh..everyone has injuries". Well guess what? Any qb that plays behind a line of backups had a crap game..show me ONE that played behind all backups that did well..you won't..you can't..Now, we'll find out if his progress during the year was a fluke or not (you know..progress..got better..something the Raiders didn't do in ANY area of the team..especially the qb. Oh..and something that Brooks didn't do either. he got worse..he sucked..he was badly over throwing receivers, had no touch, threw more interceptions than tds..you know..he SUCKED. But hey, couldn't be happier that you guys picked him up. Was worried you might actually take a chance on a good qb.

Washington was let go because he had a hefty salary and we need a youth movement at the position. Who do you guys have at DT? Anthony Adams?

Well, let's compare his year to oh..say..your latest joke of a hire Fatass Sapp. Adams had 40 combined tackles..Sapp had 32..OH..THAT'S RIGHT..his fatass got injured..well, let's go to the previous year..Sapp had 42 while playing a full season..year before? with TB? 43..Geez..yeah..I see what you mean..Adams playing at the same level as Sapp..BEFORE the Raiders dragged him down, is someone you laugh at? You were saying about Adams?? lol...you're not faring that well, are you?

And you think 11 draft picks will win you games? Your rookies last season and the season before could not win games... You guys have the biggest QB bust since Ryan Leaf, with no WR's of note, a pass catching TE who can not block when he is healthy to play, an offensive line that you have so used hyperbole upon and a coach who wants to dress like a priest on SUndays...

Well, I will say, you are a glutton, aren't you? Pay attention, oh slow to comprehend one. No, the 11 won't win, but they'll help. they'll help our starters who are back, healthy, the already mention Jonas Jennings..Newberry..Eric Johnson etc. If you weren't so confused, you wouldn't make those idiot takes about the O line, considering yours is total ****. See..we have a slew of players THAT DIDN'T PLAY LAST YEAR..they were injured. You have back the same garbage you fielded last year..OH..that's right..while losing Hill and Washington, and hiring total complete useless garbage. Again..our backups..won 4 games. YOUR STARTERS..won 4 games. Our starters are back. Your starters are back. Guess who's laughing? (notice I didn't even mention your coach, OC or your qb, lol..can't stand all that laughing at one time)

Your defense is weak across the line, save Bryant Young, you have no LB's of note with the loss of Petersen and Carter, your DB's are led by... who? Shawntae Spencer and Walt Harris

You are just so confused, aren't you? Ever hear of Derek Smith? No lb's of note? lol..Go read up. that alone makes you a fool for even making that sorry comment about the above as all we have. He alone would immediately improve that joke of a defense the Raiders fielded last year. Hell, you made every runner look like an all pro. How many runners had their best games of the year, against the Raiders? And you're talking about the Niners D? You've lost players, you've not replaced them with anyone, and your complete D looked like crap. lol..geez..like I said, you are a glutton..and thanks for the setup.

You know..when I think about how you hired your coach, your OC, and all of the predictions from Raider fans on which FA qb you would pick up..and to SEE WHO YOU ENDED UP WITH? truly ROFLMFAO.

[Mike-49er]

Originally Posted by Dylan Baboth

your a 49er fan and you are making fun of the Raiders....

Of course..it's one of the few teams around that's actually worse than us.

Besides..picking on the Texans is boring.