Why the Raiders suck

[cad]

Originally Posted by cat4

i disagree about jordan, jordan is a good rb and crockett also but they run only about 17 carries a game , is not enough, you said we don't pass enough, sorry but the stats indicate the contrary, we pass too much , 40 pass last week againts denver it's too much, yes we are predictable, first down jordan run for 3 yards it's true, but all the time in the second down we throw a stupid long pass . all the team who will be in the playoff this year are good running team, redskins, broncos, colts, seahawks, bears,giants, steelers and others, team who pass 40 times per game like us and the rams for example are bad. jordan will be better if he run 30 times a game, it's normal, rb like bettis, jordan,l.johnson are strongs and needs to run often because the defense are tired to stop this kind of rb. at the time of stabler raiders plays vertical offense, van eeghen and kenny king run about 35 carries a game and stabler pass only 25 times a games but he pass maybe 10 long pass on 25 per game to biletnikov and branch, the running game prepare the long pass, but if we pass 40 times per game it's too much and the defense make turnover. we need to run more and when we pass we need to throw long to moss and porter.

exactly bro

[punisher]

I stopped at Viking fan, I dont car what else was said.

[RaiderOfTheSith]

Originally Posted by Kweeeys Dad

This organization sucks. I was a Vikngs fan last year, mainly because of Moss. However, I was starting to like that team even though they killed me sometimes. Then Randy got traded to the Raiders and it was one of the worst days of my life. I am not gonna lie, at first it was so bad. After Moss's pressconference, I started liking the Raiders more and was excited about this season and what their offense can do. Then the season started..

First off, you guys can call Lamont the team MVP all you want. You arent gonna win with him. I saw him run all year and he has no speed. He runs through the middle for 3-4 yards every play. He had maybe 2 big runs all year. I just do not see him as a premiere back. Not a good signing

Second, Kerry Collins. You can blame the offense line all you want. It is not all Collins fault but common, this guy is not the guy to lead the raiders. He does not take any shots down the field. We were supposed to have the best WR combo in the league and neither of them have 1000 yard season or doble digit TD's. That is Kerry's fault. When you have Randy Moss, you should take about 2 shots down the field each quarter. Scrub QB's have made themselves look like pro bowlers because of Moss. He makes everyone look so good besides Kerry for some reason. I think it is Kerrys fault. I go on more with this one, but I will stop here.

Third, Norv. IF he does not get fired, I just do not understand this organization at all. The man had one year under his belt last year to learn the organization, get a feel of some of the players and get the personell he wnts. We were supposed to have one of the best offenses in the league with our players but Norv just cant get it done. It just kills me to watch a Raider game. I can predict every single play. First down is a run to lamont for about 3 yards. Second down is usually either a run to lamont for 2 yards or soemtimes a play action. The playaction is so bad too. Kerry drops back, takes a quick look down field and then dumps the ball off to lamont or throws the ball out of bounds. If you have Moss, Porter, and Gabriel, your offense should be mainly passing. Raider games are so boring to watch, very predictable and always ends in a loss.

What I am trying to say is that this organization isnt moving in the right direction. Sapp was a bad signing, Gallery was a bad draft pick, Lamont was a bad signing. I even think signing Jerry porter for that much money was bad even though he is a talented reciever. If you were going to get Moss, having Gabriel on the other side is good enough.

I am a huge Moss fan and it sucks to see him get 1 or 2 catches a week. Sure you can say that he is hurt, but he plays. I watch every game and the ball gets thrown to him 5 times max all game. CB's still give him 8-10 yard of space and Kerry still cant throw him a little out pattern. Offense is a joke. I was willing to accept the Raiders early on in the year and was hoping for improvement, but I know that Moss isnt happy there and things dont look like its going to get better. 800 yards and 6 td's for randy moss....say that outloud and see if it makes sense.

For the raiders to improve next year, its simple. Get a new QB and a new coach first off. Try to move up in the draft to get a qb like vince young or draft Aj Hawk. Then get rid of charles woodson, sapp, collins. With any extra money if there is any, sign an offensive line.

I hate to bash the Raiders like this, but tell me im not right.

Pack your band, the wagon train is moving on.

[d-mac37]

I was a huge Nap Harris fan, then he was traded to the Vikings. So I became a Viking fan, then they sucked real bad so I went back to the Raiders, then the Raiders started losing and the Vikings started winning again, so I went back to the vikings, now the vikings are not going to make the playoffs, I think the Seahawks look pretty good..............

[TheMausoleum]

Originally Posted by All-American

and i agree: jordan is AVERAGE...1000 yards is ****...now a days u need 1400 to be an all pro type of back....

Jordan leads all RBs in receptions ... and he is only 347 yards behind the so-called best RB in football (LT) in playing one less game.

Originally Posted by All-American

and norv is a retard driving a ferrari i agree

Agreed that Norv is more suitable riding in the short bus rather than driving a ferrari

Don't even get me started on 'Ti-Tihm Timmay!' ... Errr I mean Collins.

[SD BOLT DAWG]

Originally Posted by d-mac37

I was a huge Nap Harris fan, then he was traded to the Vikings. So I became a Viking fan, then they sucked real bad so I went back to the Raiders, then the Raiders started losing and the Vikings started winning again, so I went back to the vikings, now the vikings are not going to make the playoffs, I think the Seahawks look pretty good..............

TALK ABOUT HOPPING ON AND OFF THE BANDWAGON.

[d-mac37]

Originally Posted by SD BOLT DAWG

TALK ABOUT HOPPING ON AND OFF THE BANDWAGON.

Exactly my point. Glad it didn't slip by you

[HWNJEDI]

ATTENTION PASSENGERS IN THE TERMINAL! ATTENTION PASSENGERS IN THE TERMINAL!

The Bandwagon Express Trains leaving for Seattle, Indianapolis, Denver, Tampa, Cincinatti, New England, and Chicago are leaving in 5 minutes. Please discard all former team preferences at the Security Gate. Once on the train, please refrain from switching seats when one team starts doing better than the other.

For those wishing to board the train to Oakland, we apologize that there are no more seats available for the next few years. Please report to the Customer Service window where someone will assist you by slapping your head!

[HWNJEDI]

Originally Posted by SD BOLT DAWG

TALK ABOUT HOPPING ON AND OFF THE BANDWAGON.

Who would know better than Charger fans?

[silver & black]

Originally Posted by Kweeeys Dad

This organization sucks. I was a Vikngs fan last year, mainly because of Moss. However, I was starting to like that team even though they killed me sometimes. Then Randy got traded to the Raiders and it was one of the worst days of my life. I am not gonna lie, at first it was so bad. After Moss's pressconference, I started liking the Raiders more and was excited about this season and what their offense can do. Then the season started..

First off, you guys can call Lamont the team MVP all you want. You arent gonna win with him. I saw him run all year and he has no speed. He runs through the middle for 3-4 yards every play. He had maybe 2 big runs all year. I just do not see him as a premiere back. Not a good signing

Second, Kerry Collins. You can blame the offense line all you want. It is not all Collins fault but common, this guy is not the guy to lead the raiders. He does not take any shots down the field. We were supposed to have the best WR combo in the league and neither of them have 1000 yard season or doble digit TD's. That is Kerry's fault. When you have Randy Moss, you should take about 2 shots down the field each quarter. Scrub QB's have made themselves look like pro bowlers because of Moss. He makes everyone look so good besides Kerry for some reason. I think it is Kerrys fault. I go on more with this one, but I will stop here.

Third, Norv. IF he does not get fired, I just do not understand this organization at all. The man had one year under his belt last year to learn the organization, get a feel of some of the players and get the personell he wnts. We were supposed to have one of the best offenses in the league with our players but Norv just cant get it done. It just kills me to watch a Raider game. I can predict every single play. First down is a run to lamont for about 3 yards. Second down is usually either a run to lamont for 2 yards or soemtimes a play action. The playaction is so bad too. Kerry drops back, takes a quick look down field and then dumps the ball off to lamont or throws the ball out of bounds. If you have Moss, Porter, and Gabriel, your offense should be mainly passing. Raider games are so boring to watch, very predictable and always ends in a loss.

What I am trying to say is that this organization isnt moving in the right direction. Sapp was a bad signing, Gallery was a bad draft pick, Lamont was a bad signing. I even think signing Jerry porter for that much money was bad even though he is a talented reciever. If you were going to get Moss, having Gabriel on the other side is good enough.

I am a huge Moss fan and it sucks to see him get 1 or 2 catches a week. Sure you can say that he is hurt, but he plays. I watch every game and the ball gets thrown to him 5 times max all game. CB's still give him 8-10 yard of space and Kerry still cant throw him a little out pattern. Offense is a joke. I was willing to accept the Raiders early on in the year and was hoping for improvement, but I know that Moss isnt happy there and things dont look like its going to get better. 800 yards and 6 td's for randy moss....say that outloud and see if it makes sense.

For the raiders to improve next year, its simple. Get a new QB and a new coach first off. Try to move up in the draft to get a qb like vince young or draft Aj Hawk. Then get rid of charles woodson, sapp, collins. With any extra money if there is any, sign an offensive line.

I hate to bash the Raiders like this, but tell me im not right.

Uh huh, I see. So, what you're basically saying is, that you follow players around the league and decide that way what team you root for?

Since this is the smack talk forum, I will say this... you sir, are a f***ing moron! I have never said anything like that to a fellow Raider fan but, the word fan doesn't apply to you. You should pick your next favorite team after the Superbowl. That way, you can root for the current champion untill the next Superbowl, and then pick again. This way you will always be a fan of a winning team.

MORON!!!

[kitared]

Originally Posted by Kweeeys Dad

This organization sucks. I was a Vikngs fan last year, mainly because of Moss.

That statement right there diminishes everything else that was staated afterwards!! How about you find another team to cheer cause we don't want you or need you!!

[Kweeeys Dad]

Bandwagon!? The Raiders suck ass. Liking a team that is 4-12 doesnt mean that I am a bandwagoner.

[AW71]

Originally Posted by Kweeeys Dad

Bandwagon!? The Raiders suck ass. Liking a team that is 4-12 doesnt mean that I am a bandwagoner.

Do you even pay attention to the bullsh*t that you post?

Welcome to the internet, fukktard.

[migs]

Originally Posted by Kweeeys Dad

Bandwagon!? The Raiders suck ass. Liking a team that is 4-12 doesnt mean that I am a bandwagoner.

When you go from one team to another for any reason you're a bandwagoner!! You're not the only "I'm a Moss fan and I only like the Raiders b/c of Moss, now they suck im leaving" person to come around here: http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/show...894#post788894

[d-mac37]

Originally Posted by AW71

Do you even pay attention to the bullsh*t that you post?

Welcome to the internet, fukktard.