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Pietro · #16 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 09:34 AM

Nice posts guys.

Hey, where were you when I was going toe to toe with one of those I love Kerry Collins freaks?

You all are right on the mark. The guy's performance speaks for itself and it dosn't just speak, it screams!

RINY, man, I could not have said it better. We could do no worse with Tui or the kid Walter. It is time to see if TUI can play in the NFL. I would rather go 3-13 with Tui or Walter than 5-11 with Kerry Collins.

**trojan56** · #17 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTTFREE67

be careful all the collins dicksuckers will be on your azz

Calling people out will get you no where.

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cwoodson Yeah, no kidding. Those guys and their high post counts have a lot of weight around here. People are scared of them and when they come to his defense everyone on this board will be forgiving Collins by Tuesday. But how long can Collins screw us and we keep getting duped by these guys

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So, Collins is the reason we lost to Kansas City. Last I checked he didnt play def. Is he the reason we lost to SD. Last I checked he didn't play Def. or wasn't a RB. You could say the same with the Philly game and 1st KC game he wasn't a RB. Point is 3 of those games could have been easy wins and were 6-3. Has Collins had bad games? Yes but so has the DEF, OFF line, RB's but no one is calling them out. This is a team effort. Case in point today Minn beat NYG 24-21 guess what? the Off scored 3 points the rest came from 1 def Td and 2 SP td's hell Minn was up 7-6 at the half with 6 yrds total. Its a team effort.

**Raider_Len** · #18 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 11:19 AM

I hope all you Kerry diehards are happy.

**RaiderInNY** · #19 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by trojan56

Calling people out will get you no where.

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So, Collins is the reason we lost to Kansas City. Last I checked he didnt play def. Is he the reason we lost to SD. Last I checked he didn't play Def. or wasn't a RB. You could say the same with the Philly game and 1st KC game he wasn't a RB. Point is 3 of those games could have been easy wins and were 6-3. Has Collins had bad games? Yes but so has the DEF, OFF line, RB's but no one is calling them out. This is a team effort. Case in point today Minn beat NYG 24-21 guess what? the Off scored 3 points the rest came from 1 def Td and 2 SP td's hell Minn was up 7-6 at the half with 6 yrds total. Its a team effort.

Great post Trojan, your a knowledgable dude...
But the facts are, QBs are judged by wins and losses and ultimately their performances and how they lead the team and where they lead them too...Regardlless of what are he surrounding situations!
Poor David Carr in Houston has been sacked during his career more than any other QB during the same span in NFL history as a rookie starter, he hasnt had protection, 1st few years didnt have the best skill positioned players and even through all of that...they are possibly thinking of moving on due to his w/l. Look at Harrington in Det., and these cases mentioned are young guys...Collins is a veteran that has been around the block...

ZFine, he doesnt play defense, he doesnt play RB, he isnt a WR and Moss hasnt been 100% and they lost Curry and the off. line isnt top tier....How many excuses do we need to use for a QB, A QB!!!! This is a QB!!!

Im sure you understand that in the NFL...thats how it is!

**RaiderInNY** · #20 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pietro

Nice posts guys.

Hey, where were you when I was going toe to toe with one of those I love Kerry Collins freaks?

You all are right on the mark. The guy's performance speaks for itself and it dosn't just speak, it screams!

RINY, man, I could not have said it better. We could do no worse with Tui or the kid Walter. It is time to see if TUI can play in the NFL. I would rather go 3-13 with Tui or Walter than 5-11 with Kerry Collins.

Pietro, you are one of the original old time RF.Net members, I totally agree with you and I respect your opinions...
You have vast knowledge in raider history and you are RF.Net official historian...

What youve seen out of Collins and I and the rest of the Nation, places him with the likes of J.George, Hollas, Schroeder, Marinovich etc...whther you like him or not, you have to admit. I didnt hear people say, such complimentay things about Georger when he was here, and at times displayed the bombs away type of game Al likes and Kerry brings. Not saying he is a loser like Georger, cause he isnt, but the results are the same.

Pietro, you are on the money and 100% correct homie...We go wayyy back, and Ive never agreed with you more!

JUSTWINBABY911 · #21 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 12:02 PM

All this BS sent to Collin supporters should be forwarded to the Oakland Raider Organization. I choose to not bash Collins, but I see the problems are deeper that JUST the QB position. I was pissed when they hired Norv Turner, I was pissed when they signed KC, and I was even more pissed when they didn't draft Roethlisberger or trade up for Eli. I just try to support my team and enjoy the games and pull for them to win, because it doesn't matter what I think. Most fans are blind to the fact that this organization has made more than their fair share of F-ups, this ****s on their shoulders. They reap what they sew, they signed Collins and let Chucky get away. They took the two year 1. whatever million dollar option instead of giving him market value which is what he wanted. I'd want to leave too. You manage a team like this and you get what you get. Where's all the Al bashing threads?

RaiderBeast · #22 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pietro

Nice posts guys.

Hey, where were you when I was going toe to toe with one of those I love Kerry Collins freaks?

You all are right on the mark. The guy's performance speaks for itself and it dosn't just speak, it screams!

RINY, man, I could not have said it better. We could do no worse with Tui or the kid Walter. It is time to see if TUI can play in the NFL. I would rather go 3-13 with Tui or Walter than 5-11 with Kerry Collins.

I bash Collins all the time.. He SUCKS.. Norv is right with him

RaiderBeast · #23 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider_Len

Hey, kerryistheman, had enough yet? Happy now? Gonna neg rep all of us for having our eyes open?

**RaiderInNY** · #24 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 01:02 PM

Moved to the smack forum....oh well, fu0ck it....

FU*CK YOU KERRY....time to move on!!!

Imma have to buy him a drink when I see him in NY!!!

HWNJEDI · #25 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pietro

Nice posts guys.

Hey, where were you when I was going toe to toe with one of those I love Kerry Collins freaks? You all are right on the mark. The guy's performance speaks for itself and it dosn't just speak, it screams! RINY, man, I could not have said it better. We could do no worse with Tui or the kid Walter. It is time to see if TUI can play in the NFL. I would rather go 3-13 with Tui or Walter than 5-11 with Kerry Collins.

I was one of the few and the proud Collin's Haters on your side bro. I said from when he was first signed that he would be a downfall for our team. Anyone can check all of my Collin's posts and it is nothing but negative words towards him because that's what he deserves. It's like you were watching a movie where the QB was spoken to at halftime and told to throw the game or his family will be killed.

Bash me all you want Collin's fans, the guy sucks big time and is making us look stupid again. Playoff hopes are gone and a 5-11 season is upon us. Aren't you tired of being the laughing stock of the NFL? I sure am. Stop with the "Raiders Rah Rah" crap and face facts.

code707 · #26 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 01:08 PM

7 min to go and down 21 and we are slowly getting into the huddle? This is why I am losing faith in Kerry, a true leader like Gannon. We need someone with urgency! they did not show that to me.

There are people who will blame Norv but I think this is on Kerry. He needs to take charge of the huddle and that damn clock.

I cant blame anyone who boooooooed him today.

Cant blame Sapp for ending the game the way he did.

**RaiderInNY** · #27 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HWNJEDI

I was one of the few and the proud Collin's Haters on your side bro. I said from when he was first signed that he would be a downfall for our team. Anyone can check all of my Collin's posts and it is nothing but negative words towards him because that's what he deserves. It's like you were watching a movie where the QB was spoken to at halftime and told to throw the game or his family will be killed.

Bash me all you want Collin's fans, the guy sucks big time and is making us look stupid again. Playoff hopes are gone and a 5-11 season is upon us. Aren't you tired of being the laughing stock of the NFL? I sure am. Stop with the "Raiders Rah Rah" crap and face facts.

Great post.... may the force be with you!!!

**G-MoNeY** · #28 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 01:11 PM

yea man i understand why sapp did that too and about the collins thing i agree needs to take charge of the huddle

code707 · #29 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by G-MoNeY

yea man i understand why sapp did that too and about the collins thing i agree needs to take charge of the huddle

Sapp did what he did because he was frustrated. With the ref and with the way that last drive came about. We wasted 5 min!

Remember the D did good to a good denver team. The D help a good team for 17 points. Sapp was frustraded but I cant blame the guy today. He played all over that line too.

**G-MoNeY** · #30 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by code707

Sapp did what he did because he was frustrated. With the ref and with the way that last drive came about. We wasted 5 min!

Remember the D did good to a good denver team. The D help a good team for 17 points. Sapp was frustraded but I cant blame the guy today. He played all over that line too.

thats for damn sure