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09-26-2005, 06:59 AM
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Probably prior to the draft after the Moss trade 
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09-26-2005, 06:59 AM
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No you are TROLLS and fake fans.
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09-26-2005, 07:01 AM
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After watching us inlode the last two seasons...I think we have gotten better this season. Face it we would have been rolled by these teams last season and with a few breaks could have won two of these games.
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09-26-2005, 07:02 AM
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09-26-2005, 07:03 AM
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09-26-2005, 07:06 AM
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What amazes me is that we just took it to the NFC's reigning champion in their house and all everyone wants to bitch is the coaches and Kerry.
We have a good team and will win some games, but we've had a rough go of it in the first three games and still could have easily won at least two of those games.
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09-26-2005, 07:06 AM
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Moving to the smack forum, cause this is about to get ugly and I am just going to shut my mouth cause I am sick and tired of all the threads after the game of people bashing a team they so call love. If your mate or better yet your mother did something stupid or made mistakes, would you call them the stupidest person in America?
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09-26-2005, 07:07 AM
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When you get so many penalties the refs will give the other team the benefit of the doubt. That's why all Dexter Macleon had to do was ask for the flag on Moss. The Raiders offense should be good and your defense has suprised everyone by being better than average. If you had decent coaching and more TEAM players you may be 3-0 instead of 0-3. Losing close games is hard ...I know.
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09-26-2005, 07:08 AM
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someone beat me to it!
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Thanks Oaktownfan! I told DBM "Don't come back until you have $2,000 in $2 bills!!" ROB RYAN & ROB GALLERY'S #1 FAN!! Yeah I said it..... AND?!?! WIN LOSE OR TIE..SILVER & BLACK TILL I DIE Pressure bust pipes....you see the weak from the strong when the heat is on www.myspace.com/kita_red_one
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09-26-2005, 07:09 AM
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Stacey Toran and tiredchick,
I am with you. I've been a fan since I was born, that is now going on 36 years.. My favorite player growing up was Dave Casper.. Stacey you speak the truth and it hurts.. it hurts bad.. but if you other fans don't wake up and demand change and be vocal about it.. we will never ever ever resemble even close to what this great organization was about when I was young. All the sacrifice the great legends have left behind... has almost been destroyed by years we had in the late 80's early 90's.. and now with Norv "sh*th*&d" Turner.... This team has no dicipline and the blame falls squarely on the coaches... This league is too tight to be giving up penalties that keep drives alive and brings touchdowns back... The first thing Gruden had to do (and it took him TWO 8-8 years to do it) was to instill dicipline into the players of this organization ... I'm not talking about off the field.. don't care what you do off the field (as long as it doesn't hurt the team) .. Talking strinctly on the field ... YOU CAN'T HURT THE TEAM WITH LAME STUPID @SS PENALTIES THAT GIVE THE OTHER TEAM THE GAME!!! NORV YOU SUCK!!
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09-26-2005, 07:12 AM
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I Cannot Understand With The O-line We Have This Team Is Not Able To Run.the Problem With The Raiders Since Some Years Is The Draft, We Draft Bad. Look The First Round We Picked
Janikowski (incredible Mistake) Asomugha (good Athlete But Poor Foot-ball Player) Gibson (oh My God, Bad Bad Bad) Harris And P.buchanan (ordinary Players Who Play Elsewhere) Brayton (an Honest Player, But Not A First Round, Maybe A Second Round) Washington (he Is Young, I Must Give Him A Chance, But I Think It's The Same Thing Of Asomugha, Good Athlete But Poor Foot-ball Player) In Second Round Rouut And Schweigert Are Also Good Athlete But Not Good Foot-ball Players. In Fact Davis Pick Good Athlete, But Not Good Foot-ball Players. It's Not Atleticism, It's Foot-ball, We Need Player Who Has The Nose For Foot-ball Game, As Romanowski And Rod Woodson, Players Who Are Not The Best Athlete Or The Faster Athlete, But Foot-ball Player With The Nose For The Game.
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09-26-2005, 07:24 AM
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09-26-2005, 07:27 AM
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Ok, I'll blindly support our team. Raw, Raw, siscumba.....
Commitment to excellence. Just win, baby. Ya know, if Jano makes one of those kicks, people would be happy as hell, saying that we just have this and that to fine tune.
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09-26-2005, 07:30 AM
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Just watched the game in the uk and every time we made a play one of the players came up with a bonehead penalty its one step forward and two steps back.Why was gibson in coverage with westbrook on his big catch,in the uk william perry was the studio guest and dont think gibson could cover him.with the penalties i think the players who commit them should be fined with the money going to charity the way we're going a charity is going to get a hell of alot of money, also the players should be embarrassed for making to many bonehead penalties.
sorry one last rant but their must be better players than delawrence grant he's one of the worst players we have got,every game he plays for us he gives away stupid penalties. rant over now hopefully we can get it right next week. GO RAIDERS
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