Why won't you give us the credit we deserve?

[cmh6476]

Edited the title to "the Chiefs the credit they deserve?" instead of "us the credit we deserve?", but it don't change it on the front page ;)

[T_rentsthename]

You guys played a great game tonight and I give you props. I am not going to blame the ref like a lot of guys here. Even with some questionable calls we still had our chances and we blew them. I put 90% of the blame on collins for his poor throwing and poor decision making while throwing. The only confident playes that I watch are the ones where he hands the ball off. Every other play I feel my stomach knott up because I feel there is a 35% chance of an interception and a 75% chance of a crappy pass in general.

[ArrowheadMagic]

lmao..tilt........... have you ever seen a game that the Raiders actually lost because of their inability to capitalize on an opponents fumble at midfield with 3 minutes to play? ...stop crying about the refs......every team that loses a close game can point out to a bad call...or missed call....its not just your team

[cmh6476]

Originally Posted by T_rentsthename

You guys played a great game tonight and I give you props. I am not going to blame the ref like a lot of guys here. Even with some questionable calls we still had our chances and we blew them. I put 90% of the blame on collins for his poor throwing and poor decision making while throwing. The only confident playes that I watch are the ones where he hands the ball off. Every other play I feel my stomach knott up because I feel there is a 35% chance of an interception and a 75% chance of a crappy pass in general.

but as a moss fantasy owner, i love watching him go back to throw one up long for moss!

[TiltRaider]

Originally Posted by superbowl1

Hey the guys were asking for you over at the coalition

im sure they are, but i need to pick up the pieces before i go over there...

dont worry ill be there, but my mind isnt where it should be right now, because if i go over there ill be rambling like a 12 yr old idiot.

but this game, man we showed that we can beat ourself better then any team in the nfl, we beat ourselves and so do the refs with bs PI calls and bs holding on our part...

sickening, just flat out sickening...

[Raidermaiden]

Congradulations Chiefs your boys played a hell of a game in our own house. Looks like the AFC west is going to be wicked good this year.

[TiltRaider]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

lmao..tilt........... have you ever seen a game that the Raiders actually lost because of their inability to capitalize on an opponents fumble at midfield with 3 minutes to play? ...stop crying about the refs......every team that loses a close game can point out to a bad call...or missed call....its not just your team

it was not call, it was call(S) as in plural, as in more then one, there were bull**** CALLS!


the refs took away 6 freakin points, that is bs, the refs called that bs PI when it was not catchable, it was 15 yards ahead of him...

[ArrowheadMagic]

but in your case...yes it was the refsa that muffed that punt...... it was the refs that allowed the Chiefs to score on a 15 play drive then hold you to a 3 and out...then drive again for 11 plays and score...not to mention those refs that made Jordan drop passes...damn.....how did the black hole allow the refs to leave?

[kmartin575]

Originally Posted by j4ever

Because the guys that won the game for you were the Refs. The game came down to who got the better calls. The Chiefs did. Sure the Chiefs had some holding calls But none of them were bigger than the TD taken away from Moss and the uncatchable pass P.I. call.

Nope, I still have no respect for KC and still think that they don't deserve more credit than the refs.

The last two games you Raiders fans have said the refs gave the game to the Chiefs and Patsies. It's time you own up and realize that your team is good but makes too many stupid mistakes.

[superbowl1]

Originally Posted by TiltRaider

im sure they are, but i need to pick up the pieces before i go over there...

dont worry ill be there, but my mind isnt where it should be right now, because if i go over there ill be rambling like a 12 yr old idiot.

but this game, man we showed that we can beat ourself better then any team in the nfl, we beat ourselves and so do the refs with bs PI calls and bs holding on our part...

sickening, just flat out sickening...

It will all be better next sunday don't worry By the way who do you guys play?

[Sarcastro]

Originally Posted by TiltRaider

when the raiders can play a game that the refs do not control, that is when we'll see what we can really do, until then we will continue to see bull crap calls, time and time and time again....

Hey Tilt. Why don't you come to Chiefscoalition, and eat some crow.

[Raided_R]

Originally Posted by j4ever

how did they beat us? they made us take 3 points instead of our 7. They gave us a 50 yard penalty on an uncatchable pass which ended up in an easy score.

If anything they could have made up for their ****up by not calling that hold on Walker since it was on the opposite side of the play. These refs are heartless and are ruining football.

I gotta take some of that heat away from the zebras and apply it to our own stupidity...

When an O-LINEMAN holds somebody AWAY from where the play took place, and that play happened to be a huge TOUCHDOWN, then that O-LINEMAN should be held accountable. When a kicker misses vital fieldgoals that determine the direction of the game then that kicker should be held accountable. Dropped balls, over-under throwing passes, and fumbles are also not on account of the refs. While we got robbed a touchdown and from preventing a touchdown, the Raiders cannot hold anybody else responsible for their lost but themselves. Talent only goes as far as discipline, and right now we are wasting our talent due to a huge lack of discipline.

The way we are playing so far, I will be more than happy if we at least go 7-9 or 8-8 this year. Of course, it is only the second game of the season, and it is hard to seperate the truly successful teams from the unsuccessful teams until the midseason. Having said all that...GO RAIDERS!!!!!

[AW71]

Originally Posted by kmartin575

The last two games you Raiders fans have said the refs gave the game to the Chiefs and Patsies. It's time you own up and realize that your team is good but makes too many stupid mistakes.

Read this...

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/show...threadid=46727

[RandytheRaider]

lol,this is a raider board we're not gonna kiss your ass and compliment you,yes all we're talking about is what went wrong,BECAUSE this is a raider board and we worry about our team we dont care how your team played we're not gonna make a thread about how good or how bad ANOTHER team played

[cmh6476]

Originally Posted by RandytheRaider

lol,this is a raider board we're not gonna kiss your ass and compliment you,yes all we're talking about is what went wrong,BECAUSE this is a raider board and we worry about our team we dont care how your team played we're not gonna make a thread about how good or how bad ANOTHER team played

that wasn't my point. I don't think your team did play bad, I just think we played better.