How many REALLY think we'll beat the Chiefs?

**Robadidas70** · 09-12-2005, 01:15 PM

45-3 Raiders over Chefs

**iktomi** · 09-12-2005, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by RaiderFan2388

and how many raider fans do you know? 2?
if you think al sucks then
1) you dont deserve to be a raider fan
2) you prolly have been watching the raiders that long
3) you have no idea what you are talking about
Al Davis is the Raiders, no if, ands, or buts about it and he has been one of the best owners in the NFL, if you cant see that then what do u know?

If you say so. I became a fan during the Gannon-Gruden era....when it looked like our team was gonna finally get out from under his damn shadow, finally.

**Raider187** · 09-12-2005, 01:16 PM

Why wouldn't we win this game? The Queefs haven't improved defensively THAT much. If it wasn't for soooooooooooo many Jets turnovers yesterday, who knows what the outcome could have been. We only lost to the defending Super Bowl champs by 10 points, on the road, while making plenty of mistakes and/or penalties. Too many people are quick to throw in the towel. The Queefs aren't the best team in the league, and are certainly beatable. IMHO, we'll beat them in the H.O.T. by 7-10 points.

**iktomi** · 09-12-2005, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Robadidas70

45-3 Raiders over Chefs

I sure hope all you rose-colored glass wearing folks are right.

**OG BAMM BAMM** · 09-12-2005, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by iktomi

If you say so. I became a fan during the Gannon-Gruden era....when it looked like our team was gonna finally get out from under his damn shadow, finally.

wow, you must be real young or a true bandwragoner.....IMO....which is it??

**AnDroiDRaider64** · 09-12-2005, 01:18 PM

iktomi, its clear as day your a Chefs fan pretending to be a Raiders fan, just look at your post history... nice try buddy...

**iktomi** · 09-12-2005, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by AnDroiDRaider64

iktomi, its clear as day your a Chefs fan pretending to be a Raiders fan, just look at your post history... nice try buddy...

This is how you treat new members, eh?

Just cause I'm not drinking the same kool-aid as you guys....I think gettin' Moss and Jordan was cool. Collins ought to have a good year.

But our defense sucks; and their Offense, even with injuries, is pretty impressive. If you can't admit that, okay I guess.

**YayAreaPlaya707** · 09-12-2005, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by iktomi

I sure hope all you rose-colored glass wearing folks are right.

Well that guy went a little overboard, but I think your "rose-colored glasses" statement about the rest of us is a little off. I'm being objective, you are being negative. You make it seem like we have no chance. You even said we'll be lucky to be in the game at halftime.

You are either a troll or just an insanely negative fan. We should just forfeit the season cuz we lost the first game huh?

**MasterShake2388** · 09-12-2005, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by iktomi

I sure hope all you rose-colored glass wearing folks are right.

rose colored? your telling me that a Cheifs team that has Sapp and Mccleon as ther CBs, Knight and Wesley as there Safeties, Wilkerson and Hicks are there DEs with Dalton and Sims as the DTs is gonna beat us?
a banged up Bell, and a rookie who cant get off his blocks... were gonna demolish there defense

and on offense they lost O-line which was the strong point of there O, trent green is not playing top notch, and there WRs are old kennison, and Samie Parker.. there lead blocker is injured so what if they got holmes and johnson, we shut down corey dillon we'll have problems with LJ and Priest but when thats your only threat on offense aside from gonzalez and you have no defense, it makes for an easy game if we play well and WE WILL play well.

**crizpynutz** · 09-12-2005, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by iktomi

If you say so. I became a fan during the Gannon-Gruden era....when it looked like our team was gonna finally get out from under his damn shadow, finally.

Well, then like that era, your time as a Raiders fan should be over...

**WELOVEAL** · 09-12-2005, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by iktomi

What cause I'm not blind obedient-rose colored glass wearin' Raider fan?

Sorry, I just call it like I see it.

.....and I see that your sucking the Chiefs dwyck after one game "ONE game" cmon dude lets be realistic the Chiefs home field advantage is unparelled and will chew you up and spit you out if mistakes are made, Jets made numerous!!! Is KC's O that good, YES is their D that good, TBD? ONE GAME, if after a win against "US" and a win for them "YOU" plus a few more wins in a four game span Ill glady suck their dwyck too until then

**iktomi** · 09-12-2005, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by OG BAMM BAMM

wow, you must be real young or a true bandwragoner.....IMO....which is it??

Depends I suppose. Not that young, but I use to be a San Fran fan.....back in the Montanna years; just got sick of losing and the way they treated Rice.

So....after the Raiders came back to the bay area, I decided to follow 'em, especially with Gannon, Gruden, and then Rice.

**WELOVEAL** · 09-12-2005, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Robadidas70

45-3 Raiders over Chefs

....now thatz just plain ludacirs?

**RaiderInNY** · 09-12-2005, 01:25 PM

Why we will beat the Chiefs:
1. Thier run defense wasnt really tested. I saw that game vs the Jets, Pennington and Mawae had botched snaps, botched shotgun snaps, the passing attack was disrupted and they never attempted to establish a running game due to the game getting out of control. WE WILL RUN. Whether Ryan Sims is there or not (the guy has been a bust since being drafted in the 1st round really high), we will attempt to establish Jordan with our big boys up front. Their interior and foundation, their run defense needs to prove they can hold their own!

2. The LBs they have played very well, as they drove Pennington nuts, fine. I saw D.Johnson jump alot routes, crossing patterns, as he was antsy and didnt stay in his zones etc... We will use our WRs, mainly Curry and Porter in the middle of that field, Jordan out of the backfield and keep their LBs very busy...K.Bell and DJ want to attack, they wont be able to against us!

3. Their offense rolled early, as the Jets defense did play better at the start of the 2nd half, and gave then a shot to comeback, but their offense stunk it up. Our run defense is much improved, and yes we are going against a very formidable RB duo and very good O-LIne but, our run defense headed by Ted Washington up front can hold their own. PLus, add to that they cant attack us the way the Patriots did, spreading the field with WRs all over the place etc... Gibson will be on T.Gonzalez, a better match-up for him than the speedier Watson of NE and our slot guys wont get picked on...

This equals a Raider win!!!

**iktomi** · 09-12-2005, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by WELOVEAL

.....and I see that your sucking the Chiefs dwyck after one game "ONE game" cmon dude lets be realistic the Chiefs home field advantage is unparelled and will chew you up and spit you out if mistakes are made, Jets made numerous!!! Is KC's O that good, YES is their D that good, TBD? ONE GAME, if after a win against "US" and a win for them "YOU" plus a few more wins in a four game span Ill glady suck their dwyck too until then

Like I already said, I think their secondary will be suspect.....their front seven (especially those 4 LBs in the 3-4 they were runnin' yesterday) seem much improved.

It looks like Roaf will be out though, so maybe that will slow down their offense.