Non Productive BUMS!!!! - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board

**POKE** · #1 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:39 PM

This ain't no nice ass thread so if you like happy post and wootie doo threads click out this sh!t right now. Go read something else. This ain't for you. Fair warning if you proceed.

Different head coach some ole Raiders.

Most of the starters for the Oakland Raiders would have to fight for playing time on other teams let alone start. Why is Kwame Harris on the field? Maybe he is Orlando Pace in practice but in the games he is about as good as Abu the monkey stealing apples from the Palace Gardens. See Alladin II for reference. Kwame Harris is a bum and was a horrid signing. Why even sign that bum. How good did he do at protecting #1 overall pick Alex Smith in SF. So we bring him over here to protect our #1 overall pick's left side? Brillant. Good greif, if we was gonna sign a bum left tackle we could have saved money and moved Robert Gallery back there and left him. I mean hell Robert Gallery can't do no worst than Kwame Harris is doing. And Michelle Huff is weak. He is the black version of Stu. Terrible. No good in coverage or tackling. All that crap about being a playmaker is droppings after a taco bell dinner. And it ain't just one game. Huff has stunk all year. Nothing says #7 overall pick about him just like nothing says #2 overall pick about Roberto Gallery. BUMS.

Cornell Green....another dude who should be thankful the Oakland Raiders exsist. Because what other NFL franchise would pay this weak ass to start for them? This dude couldn't block a Star Wars nerd from a free George Lucas authograph signing session let alone a NFL Defensive End. But he is our starter. Why because who needs a Offensive line? We got to pay Javon Walker $55 million dollars to catch 1-2 passes a game. We got to pay Tommy Kelly $50 something million dollars. Who needs a Offensive line? We got Kwame Harris. Oh and yeah don't worry about Kwame Harris, remember how great Tom Cable is at turning Offensive lineman? So well be alright. Tom Cable got this. OK.

Someone tell me why Mario Henderson is sitting on the bench when it is proven to all life form with eye sight that he has been more productive in games than Kwame Harris this year? Anybody that answer that question should be the 2008 Winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.

DeAngelo Hall is overated. He gets burnt every game. And yall think Nnamdi is gonna stay here and sign a long term deal? HA! Why in the hell would he? Why? He is the best overall CB in the NFL I m sure he would like to go play for team that actually Wins games instead of just using wins in cliches. Look at how Charles Woodson is balling now. So what if he was a a--hole. Who cares the man is a baller. Im mean Charles Woodson turned down a contract that would have made him one of the highest paid CBs back in the day.
RAIDERS NOTEBOOK / Is Woodson's holdout detrimental?

In February, the Raiders made an offer to Woodson exceeding the seven- year, $63 million contract signed by Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey.

It ain't about the money with some of these dudes man. These dudes wanna get paid no doubt. But they don't want to be a part of a circus either. So we can sit around here and call all these players haters, greedy, and etc but how come all the good ones end up leaving? Or check that. How come most of the good ones end up leaving?

And then who do we get to replace the good ones that leave. Bums that would be 2nd or 3rd teamers some where else.

disposeablehero · #2 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:41 PM

You might hurt some people feelings, lol. Your not a raider fan......

We have lacked talent for years now, until the front office gets fixed, prepare for more losing, we need a GM and get rid of the YEs men Al has surrounded himself with.

speedkills · #3 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:46 PM

one of the greatest posts of all time Poke!

Freaken BUMS i am sick of them, and that goes for all the wide recievers not just Javon Walker who is the biggest bum

Here is the WRs catches

Curry - 6
Higgins - 6 (at least he has 153 yards)
Shailens 3
Walker 5
Lelie 6

so we have 26 catches with 5 wrs, Shailens and Higgins are as productive or unproductive as Walker and Curry, BUMS!

Green I will not blame him he is a bum who at least works hard and does his best

and also if mcfadden is hurt dont play him stop with this 8 carry a game crap and try running a sweep once in a while

BUMS

s1337m · #4 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:49 PM

great post, glad to see someone else has their brain around here

**buckwild187** · #5 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:49 PM

The last part about Nnamdi is so damn true. The kool-aid drinkers like to tell themselves that he's a good guy and wants to stay here. But the dude is great player in this league and deserves to play for a REAL team and win some games. He will be on his 5th head coach next year if he stays, that is some serious bullshiit.

As for the roster, it's butter soft at almost every position. The only place we are ok at is RB, and for fucck sake we ran only 20 times and passed 36 times!!!! That is ridiculous, but hey when you're playing catch up all game long things change. Also I suppose Greg Knapp read the posters on here whining about the playcalling and wanting to see more passes. Yep and our all-star o-line and WR corpse showed us why we should be running more often.

3-13 this year...

**silver & black** · #6 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:49 PM

You know POKE... you are my favorite hater... and I agree with your whole post.

**Chunkylover53** · #7 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:50 PM

what happened to Tru?

**buckwild187** · #8 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:54 PM

Poke you just forgot one thing, saying that bums like Hall should go sell lawnmowers at home depot and that Kwame Harris should go sweep hair at the barbershop.

**JRaider17** · #9 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:54 PM

Agree 100%

This **** does not look like it is going to get better anytime soon either.

S&B_BO34 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:56 PM

the truth hurts. It is very hard to argue with anything in your post. I don't like to admit it because I always try to see the silver & black lining! But in this case the lining just seems black.
A lot of the vets we have acquired are not solid NFL talent. They should not be starting, but in many instances we have no one else.
100% agree that Henderson should be starting over Harris. I want to see what this kid can handle, if we are going to rebuild, we have to admit it to ourselves and do it! That means playing your young players and seeing what they can do. Let Higgins and Schillens play, see what we have. Let Henderson play, see what if he is starting material. Get our young players on the field, see who can hang at this level and who can not.
Then prepare ourselves for another top pick!

**UtahRaider78** · #11 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:57 PM

I agree. One example of having the front office fixed is the Miami Dolphins. The owner doesn't do the scouting, call plays, and haggle the head coach like Al does. They went and got Bill Parcells to be the MAN in charge. He, in CONJUNCTION works WITH the head coach in terms of play style and personnel, which means they are all on the same page and look what kind of ball they are playing. This is a team that won one game a year ago and despite their hiccup today at Houston, looks like a team that could challenge for a wild-card spot come December.

The bottom line is this, I respect and appreciate Al Davis for who he is and what he has done not only for the Oakland Raiders, but professional football as a whole. However, we will continue to see this garbage out on the field (as we've seen for many years now) until Al no longer runs this team. I hope and pray that his son when he takes over learns form his dad's mistakes. For those of you STILL drinking Al's silver & black coolaid concoction thinking that it has always been the head coaches' faults, I hope you choke on it because the Raiders will NEVER win again until this organization is pried from the lifeless hands of "King" Al and deep down you all know it. I rest my case.

disposeablehero · #12 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 12:58 PM

The decisions by the FRONT OFFICE, getting Hall instead of giving aSO the money, grossly over paying for Walker and Kelly are killing us. Until the front office gets straight, it will continue to look bad.

**RaiderGlory1256** · #13 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 01:00 PM

Whew, POKE! That was a doozy bro. Seriously........ how could anybody have thought that with a new coach we would suddenly be Super Bowl bound? Sheeeit, man. This is gonna be UG-GLEEE before it gets any better. IF it gets any better.

I'm finally dumping Sunday Ticket after this season. I can't bear to watch this kinda crap week in and week out. I'll be happy to read about it on Yahoo! until this team starts to pull it together, which ain't gonna help as long as <cough, cough!> is running the show.