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Old 04-28-2008, 09:01 AM
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Afc West Predictions?

1. Chargers 14-2
2. Broncos 8-8
3. Raiders 7-9
4. Chiefs 6-10

I see the Raiders pushing the broncos for second while still getting rolled by the chargers and splitting a game with the chiefs.
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:25 AM
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Your pushing it with the 14-2.

chargers 10-6
Raiders 9-7

Tied for last chiefs and broncos 4-12
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:39 AM
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Your pushing it with the 14-2.

chargers 10-6
Raiders 9-7

Tied for last chiefs and broncos 4-12

How am I pushing it? the chargers had a bad start at 1-3 last year adjusting to new coaching all over to finish up 12-3 including playoffs. The year before the chargers were 14-2 in the regular season. With another strong team being fielded this year and the 2nd year with the staff in place along with the 2nd easiest schedule in the entire NFL. The chargers should have no problem going 14-2 especially knowing that home field is on the line.
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:20 AM
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How am I pushing it? the chargers had a bad start at 1-3 last year adjusting to new coaching all over to finish up 12-3 including playoffs. The year before the chargers were 14-2 in the regular season. With another strong team being fielded this year and the 2nd year with the staff in place along with the 2nd easiest schedule in the entire NFL. The chargers should have no problem going 14-2 especially knowing that home field is on the line.
The year that you went 14-2, there were games that you guys were close to losing. You see, the chargers know that they are good, and that is the only thing that is going to keep them from winning 14 games. Many fans thought that last season, that you guys were going to go 14-2 again. When you guys lost in the beginning of the season, every body was saying that norv should be fired. cotrell should blitz more instead of dropping into coverage blah blah blah. Now you guys think that you are going to win 14? Then I hear people saying that last year was the year to win the super bowl because the colts and steelers had the best record prior to that season and they won it. Overconfidence is not going to get you a super bowl ring. Just more heartaches.
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:23 PM
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The year that you went 14-2, there were games that you guys were close to losing. You see, the chargers know that they are good, and that is the only thing that is going to keep them from winning 14 games. Many fans thought that last season, that you guys were going to go 14-2 again. When you guys lost in the beginning of the season, every body was saying that norv should be fired. cotrell should blitz more instead of dropping into coverage blah blah blah. Now you guys think that you are going to win 14? Then I hear people saying that last year was the year to win the super bowl because the colts and steelers had the best record prior to that season and they won it. Overconfidence is not going to get you a super bowl ring. Just more heartaches.
We were right Cottrell should have blitzed more. That was part of the process of the coaches getting to know the players. And guess what he did blitz much much much more. And that pass rush led to the bolts leading the league in INTS with 30. Now we have a 4 year starter in the pac-10 in Antoine Cason along with 2 other 1st rounders Antonio Cromartie and Quentin Jammer. Pass and run defense will be a strength as the Chargers defense becomes even better. Not to mention guys like Eric Weddle. Last year was a 14-2 caliber team. You say we won alot of close games when we went 14-2 we also blew out alot of teams. Every team has close games the good ones win them. It is not overconfidence. Hell we know we have our work cut out to get to the bowl just like every year but we have the confidence in this squad to get it done. It's Super Bowl or bust here in San Diego.
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:28 PM
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1. Chargers 14-2
2. Broncos 8-8
3. Raiders 7-9
4. Chiefs 6-10

I see the Raiders pushing the broncos for second while still getting rolled by the chargers and splitting a game with the chiefs.
I don't see how anyone can make a prediction at this point in time. Gotta see how the draft picks develop...Signing of any non drafted players....Pick ups from June 1st cuts? I think the Chiefs over and under is 6 games. They have a weak schedule relatively speaking so 7 wins isn't totally out of the question. The Chargers have to be odds on favorite to win the division. Doubt its 14 wins though. Denver & Oakland...who can say? I'll let fans of those teams debate the merits of where they will fall.
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:38 PM
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I don't see how anyone can make a prediction at this point in time. Gotta see how the draft picks develop...Signing of any non drafted players....Pick ups from June 1st cuts? I think the Chiefs over and under is 6 games. They have a weak schedule relatively speaking so 7 wins isn't totally out of the question. The Chargers have to be odds on favorite to win the division. Doubt its 14 wins though. Denver & Oakland...who can say? I'll let fans of those teams debate the merits of where they will fall.
I usually don't predict until after June1 cuts and everyone is in place but there always has to be that post draft predictions thread and here it is.
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:40 PM
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Your pushing it with the 14-2.

chargers 10-6
Raiders 9-7

Tied for last chiefs and broncos 4-12

No disrespect meant but I was here last year and saw all the posts on how the Raiders were going to compete for a wild card. Win anywhere from 8-10 games. I got blasted for saying Oakland would be at the bottom of the division. I just don't think the Raiders have done enough to improve their line play. Games are won & lost in the trenches. Ironically, the one strength you did have last year was you could run the ball. You got McFadden...but you really didn't NEED him. Now you have a whole stable of RB's. Not sure why you guys didn't pick Dorsey. But 9 games is a real stretch for a team averaging 4 wins the past 5 years. I'm open to reasonable debate as to why I'm wrong.
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:55 PM
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On paper, our team is lookin good. I think 6-10 or 7-9 and 3rd place, slightly behind the Donkeys and Chiefs are just awful probably at 3-13. However, there is NO way the chargers go 14-12. Your coach is Norvel!!! I say 11-5 and another playoff disappointment.
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No disrespect meant but I was here last year and saw all the posts on how the Raiders were going to compete for a wild card. Win anywhere from 8-10 games. I got blasted for saying Oakland would be at the bottom of the division. I just don't think the Raiders have done enough to improve their line play. Games are won & lost in the trenches. Ironically, the one strength you did have last year was you could run the ball. You got McFadden...but you really didn't NEED him. Now you have a whole stable of RB's. Not sure why you guys didn't pick Dorsey. But 9 games is a real stretch for a team averaging 4 wins the past 5 years. I'm open to reasonable debate as to why I'm wrong.
I am pissed K.C. got him. That guy is going to be a beast in the division. The new Jamal Williams of the division once Jamal actually retires of course ha. McFadden won't do much against the Chargers but I think he will have an ok year. 1100 yards 8 td's? Maybe.
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On paper, our team is lookin good. I think 6-10 or 7-9 and 3rd place, slightly behind the Donkeys and Chiefs are just awful probably at 3-13. However, there is NO way the chargers go 14-12. Your coach is Norvel!!! I say 11-5 and another playoff disappointment.
This is Norv with Swagger, Grit, and Fire. Something neither of us saw out of him in oakland and really didn't see out of him until about halfway through the season. And it was like night and day. i was like... Did we rehire marty? Is that Bobby Ross out there? All of the sudden things just clicked it was great to watch. Super Bowl or Bust this year.
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Super Bowl or Bust this year.
I think its the latter. Just don't see it happening...............EVER. Something always goes wrong
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1. San Diego 10-6
2. Broncos 8-8
3. Chiefs 6-10
4. Raiders 5-11

-San Diego will walk away with the division title again for now.
-Cutler will improve more in '08, but Shanahan will continue to anger the Denver faithful. This team really needs a rebuild, but searchcan continues to patchwork things. He really is confusing on the playcalling and GM fronts.
-The Chiefs will get the running game back on track, but we will be fielding a lot of rookies and 2nd year players. The overall lack of experienced players will hurt when the team faces critical gametime situations, but that's the fun of rebuilding.
-I'm honestly not sold on the all-star RB+DB groups. The game is played in the trenches and giving Tommy Kelly a 50 million deal and trying to revive a turd out of Kwame Harris isn't going to cut it. For every step forward Kiffin takes this team, it seems Al Davis takes 3 steps back.
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Chargers- 11 5
Broncos - 9 7
Chiefs - 7 9
Raiders - 6 10

- Chargers will win div, probally early out of playoffs.
- Broncos few more banaids applied, cutler should better, solid overall play however nothing pushing them past the chargers
- Chiefs sporting alot of rookies in a rebuilding year, still having qb woes, however a very solid draft and quality pickups should make a impact immediatly.
- Raiders I dont aggree with how your draft went at all, i think lines should of been addressed. (as a chiefs fan iam glad you picked mcfadden personally) OL is still patchwork, Russel may have a cannon but needs time to load it, same for McFadden. Still a improved team this year then last year.

Raiders and chiefs which one is last...flip a coin i guess. I based it on last few years divisional records, its good the raiders finally broke the losing streak but still history is not on their side. IMO
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