Afc West Predictions?

[UC]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

Uh yeah...we sooooooooooooo scared we demolished you 9 straight times. This isn't even a rivalry anymore, you guys can't keep your end of the bargain.

Try winning more than 2 or 4 games per season ocassionally! You guys are starting to make the Bungles look like the 90's version of the 49ers.

You're right... this has never been a rivalry. We owned you for decades and you have owned us the past five years. Advantage?

[UC]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

Funny...it's the mileage huh??? More like it's the bitterness of being OWNED by LT!

Of LT's 2,365 carries all time.....he's the one of two [the other being Jim Brown] in the top 15 all time with the LEAST amount of carries all time. So much for the mileage theory!

The sad thing is LT had an injury that didn't require surgery and he sat out the most important game of his life.

I'll give the Chargers credit.. they have proven to be the kings of the regular season but turn very queen like in the playoffs.

Shoot, look at the injury that Rivers was playing with and then take a look at L.T. pouting on the sidelines with the best tickets in the whole house.

[UC]

Originally Posted by Touchdown619

Nevermind the fact that since 04 we're 3-1 against the Colts and the only time they beat us was in 04 in overtime with a dramatic comeback and we swept them last year. Fact is we can beat the patriots and a I believe a healthy chargers team wins that afc title game last year. As it was I figured we should lose without gates lt and rivers. Volek and turner played admirably but are not those all pro guys. The Chargers will win the Super Bowl this season as we are the best team and the hungriest team in the league. You WILL see NE fall to us twice this season as will the colts however many times we play them. The colts are just a terrible matchup for the Chargers and minus that week 2 game last year we usually handle the patriots. With that said the Road to the Super Bowl will run through San Diego this season.

Can someone pull the definition of homer please?

So you will beat the Colts because you have been successful against them in the past but then you spin that very logic when discussing the Patriots?

I find it funny that you are convinced up and down that you can beat the Patriots multiple times even though you have been owned and you make a cake walk approach regarding the Colts.

The mighty Chargers go 3-0 against arguably the top two teams in the league

You're funny.

[ChargedUp]

Originally Posted by LATE HIT!

I think the Vikings lost 4 Super Bowls
SBIV-Chefs
SBVII-Fins
SBIX-Squeelers
and of course SBXI to our beloved RAIDERS. My 2 cents

SB IV was a pre merger NFL/AFL Championship.

[dhitter]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

More than 3 wins? well, the draft is nice and everything but if you are expecting rookies that are used to college training schedules and college seasons where they take significant time off during games who don't play the best players week after week after week in college, all of a sudden they'll be facing the best the NFL has to offer 16 reg season games not to mention the 4 previous pre-season games then you may not be a long time fan, rookies hit these so called "walls" at some point, even the best hit them so to be counting on your draft to help you that much is a nice expectation but the reality and history does not support that kind of track record.

Personally I still think the biggest threat, and realistically it's not much of threat is the Broncos, perhaps!

Never said the Chiefs were going to be a threat. Yes, the Chiefs will be playing a lot of rookies. And of course rookies players never achieve anything in their first year...

I AM suggesting that with a better O'line, better O coordinator, someone to replace a broken down Ty Law, Glenn Dorsey and a healthy LJ combined with a fairly easy schedule that the Chiefs might actually (dare I say it?) win more than the 4 games they won last year with what was a horrible team. I know as a Raider fan you wish the Chiefs would go 0-16. But wishful thinking is no substitute for reality as evidenced by all the "Raiders will at least be a wild card team" posts I saw from last year...and the year before.

Not to mention all the posts I could pull up here at how the Raiders are gonna own because they have McFadden (a rookie) and J Russell (essentially a rookie). I guess that's different.

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by UC

You're right... this has never been a rivalry. We owned you for decades and you have owned us the past five years. Advantage?

Its pretty sad when your ONLY counter argument is to always hide behind the skirt of the past, like ALL raider fans you can't handle the here and now or the future.

BTW we will continue to OWN you in the near future as well, and thanks again for admitting we OWN you guys!!!!

[NHRaider]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

Its pretty sad when your ONLY counter argument is to always hide behind the skirt of the past, like ALL raider fans you can't handle the here and now or the future.

BTW we will continue to OWN you in the near future as well, and thanks again for admitting we OWN you guys!!!!

I'm pretty sure last season was the past too... Therefore if we can't count the past neither team has any wins against the other. Wouldn't really call it an owning since by your logic we are both 0-0...

We will see who owns who in the near future.

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by UC

The sad thing is LT had an injury that didn't require surgery and he sat out the most important game of his life.

I'll give the Chargers credit.. they have proven to be the kings of the regular season but turn very queen like in the playoffs.

Shoot, look at the injury that Rivers was playing with and then take a look at L.T. pouting on the sidelines with the best tickets in the whole house.

"The most important game in his life??" Please. That would be the SuperBowl...not the AFCCG.

As always any arguments to counter the Chargers rising tide as a dominant NFL power are just empty rhetoric. We know and acknowledge we don't have any SB wins, Rome was not built in a day, a month or a year and we are firmly on our way to having that elusive Lombardi in our hands.

2004 = surprised everybody - lost in the opening round
2005 = regressed a bit but talent was there
2006 = overconfident and lost in the opening round
2007 = progress made playoff games won to advance lasted until the AFCCG
2008 = no excuses we are a team of destiny!

Short of putting it in a bargraph I can't help you or make you understand, you have your bias and that's all good and well, but inspite of the outwardly raidersitic jingoism about SB's and Playoffs the reality is cold and hard your franchise stink and will continue to stink until proven otherwise, the Chargers haven't won a SB yet and will never be considered an equal at the top until we do. That being said we are waaaaaaaaaaayyyy closer to the top of the mountain than you guys are and when the 2008 season is over I am confident I will have a new avatar to add to my profile.

[NHRaider]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

but inspite of the outwardly raidersitic jingoism about SB's and Playoffs the reality is cold and hard your franchise stink and will continue to stink until proven otherwise, .

By that logic then, short of your "outwardly chargeristic jingoism" wouldnt that mean that your franchise chokes in the playoffs and will continue to choke in the playoffs until proven otherwise...

[Sonic Raider]

Originally Posted by NHRaider

I'm pretty sure last season was the past too... Therefore if we can't count the past neither team has any wins against the other. Wouldn't really call it an owning since by your logic we are both 0-0...

We will see who owns who in the near future.

Bring up a good point there.

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by dhitter

Never said the Chiefs were going to be a threat. Yes, the Chiefs will be playing a lot of rookies. And of course rookies players never achieve anything in their first year...

I AM suggesting that with a better O'line, better O coordinator, someone to replace a broken down Ty Law, Glenn Dorsey and a healthy LJ combined with a fairly easy schedule that the Chiefs might actually (dare I say it?) win more than the 4 games they won last year with what was a horrible team. I know as a Raider fan you wish the Chiefs would go 0-16. But wishful thinking is no substitute for reality as evidenced by all the "Raiders will at least be a wild card team" posts I saw from last year...and the year before.

Not to mention all the posts I could pull up here at how the Raiders are gonna own because they have McFadden (a rookie) and J Russell (essentially a rookie). I guess that's different.

No biggie. as I mentioned I am no raiders fan. Everybody knows the raider fans have been "in it" ONLY in their own minds since 1984. And have ZERO chance of making the playoffs this year, but, back to the topic, I guess my skepticism is grounded on the fact that no matter how many great and talented rookies the Chiefs play it still matters [W's and L's] at one single position and that is the QB position and the Chiefs have Croyle and Huard and you guys are gonna hand the ball to Croyle sink or swim, well at least in the first part of the year.

Like all young QB's, there are gonna be some serious ups and downs [hear this raider fans] unless Croyle and Russell are re-encarnations of Dan Marino in his second year I doubt very much the Chiefs schedule or the raiders schedule will help them very much.

We see it year in and year out, some wet behind the ears QB is crowned the starter and they pin the hopes of a franchise on their back and with out going through a 16 game season and suddenly they are Unitas and Montana in their prime, according only to the fan base.

Reality is very few if any 1st year starters make any impact on thier teams right away, the NFL learning curve is a bear and that impacts the whole roster from top to bottom. Which is where most of those teams end up at the end of the year. I expect the Chiefs and Raiders to be in the Top 10 in the NFL draft again next year and with some extreme luck maybe, just maybe one of those teams picks in the top-15

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by NHRaider

I'm pretty sure last season was the past too... Therefore if we can't count the past neither team has any wins against the other. Wouldn't really call it an owning since by your logic we are both 0-0...

We will see who owns who in the near future.

"We will see who owns who in the near future" Bahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!! OK, thanks for the comedy! You make this sound like you guys actually have a chance!

[NHRaider]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

"We will see who owns who in the near future" Bahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!! OK, thanks for the comedy! You make this sound like you guys actually have a chance!

All I said was we will see... not sure I understand how thats comedy?

Are you saying that we will not see who owns in the near future?