Afc West Predictions?

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by vegasraider26

Charger fans talking ...........................

I'm sorry, that still just cracks me up every time. You guys FINALLY start winning some games and now it's time to start acting like badasses like you've been such a storied and dominant franchise for years................LMFAO!!

Let me tell you something, you guys are right on the same level as the Cardinals, Lions, Saints and Falcons as one of THE WORST and most consistent losing franchises in the history of the NFL. But I guess that's just something you DOLT fans have come to accept huh?

<<<Let me tell you something, you guys are right on the same level as the Cardinals, Lions, Saints and Falcons as one of THE WORST and most consistent losing franchises in the history of the NFL.>>>>

How funny, that's exactly what STATS's Inc. said about the raiders = the worst five year run in NFL history right up there with the Cincy Bungles of the 90's.

Guess who is one of the worst most consistent losing franchises in NFL history now?? = The Raiders!

LMAO!!!!!! Funny how raider fans think they are such badasses, just because they won super bowls some 24 years ago and have done NOTHING since except get embarrased in front of the entire GLOBE [all 6 Billion people] from China to LA in 2002!

How's that for Irony!

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by Raidersabc123

sorry i couldnt see that without laughing

Hey, that's OK, most football fans can't see the raiders play a game without laughing as well.

We all have our dreams, mine just happen to be a bit, well a whole lot more realistic. But hey you guys are only some 50 legitimate players away from being a threat! Gotta give you guys some credit for trying.

[Raidersabc123]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

<<<Let me tell you something, you guys are right on the same level as the Cardinals, Lions, Saints and Falcons as one of THE WORST and most consistent losing franchises in the history of the NFL.>>>>

How funny, that's exactly what STATS's Inc. said about the raiders = the worst five year run in NFL history right up there with the Cincy Bungles of the 90's.

Guess who is one of the worst most consistent losing franchises in NFL history now?? = The Raiders!

LMAO!!!!!! Funny how raider fans think they are such badasses, just because they won super bowls some 24 years ago and have done NOTHING since except get embarrased in front of the entire GLOBE [all 6 Billion people] from China to LA in 2002!

How's that for Irony!

Ya you have more wins then us in the last 5 years but what do you have to show for it? NOTHING We havent won a SuperBowl in a while but tell me how many you guys have. Do you want me to tell you how much zero, do you want me to tell you again zero, How many will you guys get in the future zero

[max powers]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

Hey, that's OK, most football fans can't see the raiders play a game without laughing as well.

We all have our dreams, mine just happen to be a bit, well a whole lot more realistic. But hey you guys are only some 50 legitimate players away from being a threat! Gotta give you guys some credit for trying.

**** the chargers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Raidersabc123]

[ChargedUp]

Originally Posted by Raidersabc123

Get ready for the 2008 season!!!! 2 more ass whippings for you guys!

[dhitter]

Originally Posted by BlackDawg

I think it may have to do with the fact we are coming off 14-2 season in 06 and a 11-5 season in 07....we have improved each of the last two years. The expectation is SB in San Diego.

Concern yourself with the expectation that oACLand may or might win more than 4 games, that's if you have a tremendous season. Big IF!

First of all...I don't concern myself with Oakland's record cuz I'm a Chiefs fan. I have seen a lot of people here placing KC at 3-4 wins. I'm thinking 1) We likely will have better O line play (couldn't be worse), 2) LJ is healthy again, 3) We have Glenn Dorsey...the 1st legit D tackle we've had in eons, 4) we scrubbed the doofus O coordinator we had and brought in a proven winner plus 5) we nailed one of the easiest schedules we've had in a long time. Somehow to me that adds up to more than 3 wins. I believe the over and under is 6 wins and in 2009 the Chiefs are gonna be a team to be reckoned with. Yes that's an opinion but I would be glad to back it up with more info upon request...

I like McFadden...always have but no one seems to be concerned with the fact the Raiders had a solid running game before, now have a bevy of backs, Russell still has proven nothing, the Raiders have done little to shore up the run defense except throw crazy money at unproven players. I do think Oakland has great corners but D Hall can be burned and has been many times. I was here this time last year and saw all the predictions as to why the Raiders were a wild card team. I saw all the reasons...none of which panned out. Truth is there are as many question marks going into this season as last with the possibility the results will be the same. Is anyone sold on Kiffen as the next Tom Flores? Is J Russell the real deal or a bust waiting to happen? Its nice to dream but reality has a way of evening the slate.

The main reason I think the Chiefs are on the upswing is because they are trying to build the lines. Dorsey and Albert are great picks. Hali is a solid young talent. Waters is a former pro bowler with gas left. Get a couple more bodies in place and I think KC will be a tough team in the trenches. Raiders didn't even take a lineman until the 6th round. Scott is not known for being that productive on the field. For a team that was next to last in rushing defense and also offensively gave up 41 sacks how can that not be a concern?

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by Raidersabc123

Ya you have more wins then us in the last 5 years but what do you have to show for it? NOTHING We havent won a SuperBowl in a while but tell me how many you guys have. Do you want me to tell you how much zero, do you want me to tell you again zero, How many will you guys get in the future zero

The LIONS and Cardinals and Bengals have more wins than you guys.

Yes, we know we've won ZERO SB's, who is disputing it?? I dare you to show me!

But when you guys rely on 24 year old, let me repeat that 24 YEAR OLD information and the KC Squaws havent won anything since Nixon was in the whitehouse, Yet you dont hear the Sqaws fans parrot their trophy like you guys, what you guys have collectively is called insecurity and a inferiority complex, sprinkled with major shots of delusions of grandeur, some have already come out of their Matrix like slumber and realized your franchise is the worst the NFL has to offer. But many still run and hide like the VC, eh tough guy!

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by max powers

**** the chargers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Make sure you say it nice and loud after the final score at the end of both games. I'm pretty certain we will give you plenty of reason.

[BlackDawg]

Originally Posted by dhitter

First of all...I don't concern myself with Oakland's record cuz I'm a Chiefs fan. I have seen a lot of people here placing KC at 3-4 wins. I'm thinking 1) We likely will have better O line play (couldn't be worse), 2) LJ is healthy again, 3) We have Glenn Dorsey...the 1st legit D tackle we've had in eons, 4) we scrubbed the doofus O coordinator we had and brought in a proven winner plus 5) we nailed one of the easiest schedules we've had in a long time. Somehow to me that adds up to more than 3 wins. I believe the over and under is 6 wins and in 2009 the Chiefs are gonna be a team to be reckoned with. Yes that's an opinion but I would be glad to back it up with more info upon request...

I like McFadden...always have but no one seems to be concerned with the fact the Raiders had a solid running game before, now have a bevy of backs, Russell still has proven nothing, the Raiders have done little to shore up the run defense except throw crazy money at unproven players. I do think Oakland has great corners but D Hall can be burned and has been many times. I was here this time last year and saw all the predictions as to why the Raiders were a wild card team. I saw all the reasons...none of which panned out. Truth is there are as many question marks going into this season as last with the possibility the results will be the same. Is anyone sold on Kiffen as the next Tom Flores? Is J Russell the real deal or a bust waiting to happen? Its nice to dream but reality has a way of evening the slate.

The main reason I think the Chiefs are on the upswing is because they are trying to build the lines. Dorsey and Albert are great picks. Hali is a solid young talent. Waters is a former pro bowler with gas left. Get a couple more bodies in place and I think KC will be a tough team in the trenches. Raiders didn't even take a lineman until the 6th round. Scott is not known for being that productive on the field. For a team that was next to last in rushing defense and also offensively gave up 41 sacks how can that not be a concern?

More than 3 wins? well, the draft is nice and everything but if you are expecting rookies that are used to college training schedules and college seasons where they take significant time off during games who don't play the best players week after week after week in college, all of a sudden they'll be facing the best the NFL has to offer 16 reg season games not to mention the 4 previous pre-season games then you may not be a long time fan, rookies hit these so called "walls" at some point, even the best hit them so to be counting on your draft to help you that much is a nice expectation but the reality and history does not support that kind of track record.

Personally I still think the biggest threat, and realistically it's not much of threat is the Broncos, perhaps!

[broncossuck6]

Chargers suck! LT better keep his head up and watch up for Gibril Wilson