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Old 03-21-2008, 04:58 PM
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a nice compliant at the pro level, don't accept much more.
What does this mean? Are you posting drunk?
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:16 PM
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Jesus Christ. You and migman33 should check into a hotel room with a bottle of Hennessey and some naked pics of McFadden and just have yourselves a party...
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:33 PM
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These McFumble lovers have no idea what theyre talkin about.

They just keep saying "Draft Mcfadden" and no logical reason to back it up
Al drafts measurables, and he will pick the best player on the board at that pick. I think McF is good but he hasn't proven to be great in the NFL. It sure would take the pressure off of Russell if McF ended up like AP.
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Old 03-22-2008, 01:15 AM
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What does this mean? Are you posting drunk?
Think I was on the phone but getting buzzed Not sure what that means either I assume "accept" means "expect".
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Old 03-22-2008, 01:56 AM
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You make very good points man. Unfortunately this board becomes a popularity contest this time of year.
I don't remember that happening last year....
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I respect your opinion, but unfortunately you are basing it on "What ifs" and possible variables. You make an argument based on the *assumption* that DMC will either suck or just be average, which is an opinion 99.9% of the informed sports world doesn't share.

It's to be expected though, since every year the smear campaigns on this site happen when the Draft comes up. Rather than saying "This guy will be a better fit for us" or "This guy is great but he's not what we need" it boils down to "This guy sucks" or "This guy is a beast." That's why it's hard for me to take a lot of these opinions seriously.

Personally, I would be happy with really any of the top picks like DMC, one of the Longs, Dorsey or Gholston. ALL of them will instantly make us better. If you like one of them better than the other, cool. But don't try to convince anyone here that a guy sucks when he is so obviously one of the best prospects at his position for a long time, and will almost assuredly succeed in the NFL.
As I do yours but aren't assumptions and opinions what are driving the McFadden is greatest RB in a long time crowd as well? Or is it the youtube videos of his untouched long runs? Because I have quite a few Arkansas games that I have reviewed in the last few months and I see a good college RB, not an astonishing back that many are claiming. If that is being "uniformed" I'll take it. That is my stance on him and will stick by it since I've done my own research. Not sure many, if any of those on McFadden's jock really are seeing the whole picture. They are just following what internet mocks, NFLN, ESPN and what youtube is telling them. I'm really starting to wonder if they have ever seen more than a handful of his games. If they have you can easily see he has holes in his game.

Maybe I need to go back and read what I said, did I say he sucks or will suck? I thought I called him a nice RB that will have problems at the pro level. For me, he's more of a luxury pick and especially for the Raiders, isn't a need by any means. What's the point in bringing in a nice complimentary back when we already have 2 proven RB's and a young back who has big upside? For me, it would just be a bad choice if either of the Long's, Dorsey, Ellis or Goulston are there. I wouldn't be pissed or freak out if we did select him, I would hope for the best but expect nothing more than a homerun threat that loves to cough up the ball. Not an every down back that is gonna get you the tough yards needed.

I hear ya on the "smear" campaigns. I think it starts from a few over the top opinions from either side and it just snowballs from there to disprove ones opposed opinion.

Not trying to change anyone's opinion.....just stating what I believe is the truth about his future.
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I think McF is good but he hasn't proven to be great in the NFL.
Neither has anyone else in this Draft, since all of them have yet to step on a pro field.
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:42 AM
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As I do yours but aren't assumptions and opinions what are driving the McFadden is greatest RB in a long time crowd as well? Or is it the youtube videos of his untouched long runs? Because I have quite a few Arkansas games that I have reviewed in the last few months and I see a good college RB, not an astonishing back that many are claiming. If that is being "uniformed" I'll take it. That is my stance on him and will stick by it since I've done my own research. Not sure many, if any of those on McFadden's jock really are seeing the whole picture. They are just following what internet mocks, NFLN, ESPN and what youtube is telling them. I'm really starting to wonder if they have ever seen more than a handful of his games. If they have you can easily see he has holes in his game.

Maybe I need to go back and read what I said, did I say he sucks or will suck? I thought I called him a nice RB that will have problems at the pro level. For me, he's more of a luxury pick and especially for the Raiders, isn't a need by any means. What's the point in bringing in a nice complimentary back when we already have 2 proven RB's and a young back who has big upside? For me, it would just be a bad choice if either of the Long's, Dorsey, Ellis or Goulston are there. I wouldn't be pissed or freak out if we did select him, I would hope for the best but expect nothing more than a homerun threat that loves to cough up the ball. Not an every down back that is gonna get you the tough yards needed.

I hear ya on the "smear" campaigns. I think it starts from a few over the top opinions from either side and it just snowballs from there to disprove ones opposed opinion.

Not trying to change anyone's opinion.....just stating what I believe is the truth about his future.
Good post bro, very fair. Although I don't totally agree, I respect the way you state your opinion. Rep
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:57 AM
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Holy sheeet you're sorta right! But here's the thing....we fans are starved for a RB and DF isn't the savior imo. We have Fargas(4.35), who ran the fastest 40 time for a RB until Fumbles & Johnson did this year. + JF is Much stronger.

I don't hate McFumblegs at all, but why do we need him? A short-term homerun hitter that will breakdown or will be seldom used? He's not the type of back you take where we are at. For me the re-singing of Fargas, Rhodes said it all. Time to go DL or trade back.....no other options.
Good old McFumbles - 15 fumbles last year.
Right on.
Good move.

I can see his typical game stats now:
18 carries, 78 yards. Long = 32 yards. 1 fumble.

In other words, 17 other carries for 46 yards.
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:24 AM
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Good old McFumbles - 15 fumbles last year.
Right on.
Good move.

I can see his typical game stats now:
18 carries, 78 yards. Long = 32 yards. 1 fumble.

In other words, 17 other carries for 46 yards.
Looks about right Also, I highly doubt he would ever get the ball that much on this team. I just don't see the urgent need for a back like him here. Now, if we didn't re-sign Fargas I would be a little more receptive to the possibility of taking him, even though I question his long term production at the next level.
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