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  1. #21
    1st of all, Joseph is 5-10 205. For reference, Troy Polamalu was 5-10 213. Not a big difference. Donte Whitner 5-11 205. Both those guys were all pro. Size is not the issue.

    Second, KJ is Oakland's leading tackler with 65. Not saying he is playing lights out, and his numbers are down the last 2-3 weeks, but he's been solid.

    No way is he a bust.

  2. #22
    Not even close to a bust. Smh.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Hungary87 View Post
    1st of all, Joseph is 5-10 205. For reference, Troy Polamalu was 5-10 213. Not a big difference. Donte Whitner 5-11 205. Both those guys were all pro. Size is not the issue.

    Second, KJ is Oakland's leading tackler with 65. Not saying he is playing lights out, and his numbers are down the last 2-3 weeks, but he's been solid.

    No way is he a bust.
    Schweigert use to tackle a lot too. We just don't know where to place people and use their talents. We're still in the mindset that we ignore a players strength and weakness and just plug them into an x and o and expect them to perform. Winning teams have moved on from this but Oakland clearly has not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thringtime View Post
    Schweigert use to tackle a lot too. We just don't know where to place people and use their talents. We're still in the mindset that we ignore a players strength and weakness and just plug them into an x and o and expect them to perform. Winning teams have moved on from this but Oakland clearly has not.
    Big difference. Joseph is playing near the LOS and Schweigert used to tackle players when they got 50 yards down the field.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    so far karl joseph has been a bust to me,non existent is right
    A free safety playing strong safety. When we get someone who can play Strong safety, we will put Karl at Free safety

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by 4thringtime View Post
    Schweigert use to tackle a lot too. We just don't know where to place people and use their talents. We're still in the mindset that we ignore a players strength and weakness and just plug them into an x and o and expect them to perform. Winning teams have moved on from this but Oakland clearly has not.
    Exactly, you have a system great, but you can massage the system to take advantage of your talent. Okay so Sean Smith is a great man to man, physical corner, okay, isolate him on their slower receiver on the line, just because he's a LCB, you cement him on that side of the field, you're allowing the offense to dictate the matchups. We have JDR and we have to agree, he's coaching this team with a cocksure attitude, because of his pedigree as a highly decorated 3 sport high school athlete, 2 sport college athlete and NFL player....but we are scheming like a mouse. We have the nastiest offensive line, but we're having them tippy toe in the ZBS. We try to out smart the other team offensively, but we have the talent to show what we are doing and doing it to great results.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Hungary87 View Post
    1st of all, Joseph is 5-10 205. For reference, Troy Polamalu was 5-10 213. Not a big difference. Donte Whitner 5-11 205. Both those guys were all pro. Size is not the issue.

    Second, KJ is Oakland's leading tackler with 65. Not saying he is playing lights out, and his numbers are down the last 2-3 weeks, but he's been solid.

    No way is he a bust.
    He's 5-9. But its not about height, he just isn't playing well.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by tactician View Post
    He's 5-9. But its not about height, he just isn't playing well.
    He is not playing well because we're not asking him to do what suits him, we're plugging him into a role he's not suited for and then calling him a bust over it. God you'd think these people would learn from New England you don't plug squares into a round hole.

  9. #29
    We brought in obi to cover TEs, or at least that was the consensus when he was drafted him.

  10. #30
    I tend to side with the thought process that he's not playing his best position, the comparison of Joseph in the draft was that he was an Earl Thomas type player. He is more suited to FS. The SS like Kam Chancellor is the one lower in the box and the one who covers the TE's. That's what Obi was drafted for however it's obvious he isn't ready and for some dang reason this team think Nelson deserves to keep his FS spot and play almost every play. Eventhough he's late in over the top coverage almost all the time. I don't know if Joseph as FS and Obi at SS is going to work out, but it's not rocket surgery to see where they should play and be used.

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