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    Likely plan for the draft

    Here’s what I believe the Raiders will do in the draft:

    1) Stay at 7 (or possibly trade up if one of the four true blue chippers are available and the cost is reasonable): QB Bryce Young, QB CJ Stroud, DE Will Anderson, DE Tyree Wilson. Note: The Raiders may have one or two other players at this level, including Joey Porter or Devon Weatherspoon. These four players — and possibly one or two more on the Raiders’ board — are head and shoulders above the others in this draft. There is a considerable drop off after these players to the point that a player picked at 10 will not be rated that much higher than someone in the second round or later in the first round. This draft is deep in the first three or four rounds.

    2) Trade down to accumulate more draft capital. I believe the best value in this draft will be at the end of the first round and into the second and third rounds. If we can pick QBs Will Levis or Anthony Richardson at the middle or end of the first round, we may pull the trigger, but I fully expect these players will be gone by pick 10-12. The only way I see the Raiders gambling with Levis or Richardson is if we can add enough draft capital to adequately address our other needs in the second or third rounds. The most likely scenario is that the Raiders trade down at least twice, accumulating additional picks for their trouble.

    3) After accumulating more draft capital, add at least one or two players at every level of the defense. We desperately need a run stopping DT who can also get penetration on passing players, another edge rusher, linebackers who can cover and CBs with the speed and athleticism to cover NFL receivers. More than anything, we need players with an attitude, who set the tone on defense. We also need a RT, a TE and an interior offensive lineman, but I see the focus this year will definitely be on defense. When it’s all said and done, I think the Raiders will have at least 12 picks, possibly more, but we can also use the additional picks to move up to pick the players we believe will best fit our system.

    4) This draft will be the foundation on which the McDaniels/Zeigler led team will build the Raiders. We cannot swing and miss on players if this team has any chance in future years. Speaking of future years, don’t be surprised if you see the Raiders trade a second this year for a first next year or receive another pick next year as part of the compensation for moving down in the draft. If they believe the pick they receive will set them up to select a franchise QB next year, they may play a little “chess” with these picks. This team can improve dramatically next year with Jimmy G and a better defense, but we will not compete for Super Bowls until we get our own franchise QB. Think long-term. McDaniels, Zeigler and Mark Davis are.

    5) Anthony Richardson is the wild card in this draft. I watched an informative video this morning. The “expert” compared most QBs in the draft to solving a Rubik’s Cube. He said with most first round QBs, you think you are only one or two moves away from “solving” the cube of unlocking that QB’s potential to become a franchise QB. With Richardson, he said, you’re MULTIPLE turns away from solving his “cube.” But once he’s complete — IF he is ever complete — he conceivably could be the best player on the field in any game. His athleticism is THAT elite. At 7, Richardson should probably not be considered unless the Raiders are going “all in.” This is Vegas, though, but I still don’t see it happening. But later in the first round, after we have accumulated more capital, it may make sense. I guess it all comes down to how confident McDaniels and Zeigler are in unlocking his potential. They’ve met with this kid and can sense his motivation and work ethic. Plus, unlike when we picked Jalardass Russell, we won’t have to pay him whatever he demands because he’s an early pick.

    Anyway, I would appreciate your thoughts. These are mine.
    Last edited by raiderman41; 03-23-2023 at 02:30 AM.

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    To get Richardson we would need to move to #3.
    If we stay at #7 we might have a shot at Carter, but
    he still probably will be gone.
    I expect the top 4 QBs gone by 7.
    I think DE Tyree Wilson. might be the pick, if we go BPA.
    If we are looking for a corner we should trade down.

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    I don’t think they’re trading out if 7. I’d love Gonzalez, or Wilson. I just want a STUD defensive player. They are needed at all three levels of this defense. It would be fantastic to see them invest something in a real linebacker. I know most people aren’t high on Levis, but I think he’s got a great shot at being very effective. Past my initial shock and disappointment of free agency, tired of complaining and I think I’m actually looking forward to what these guys are trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vioraider View Post
    I donít think theyíre trading out if 7. Iíd love Gonzalez, or Wilson. I just want a STUD defensive player. They are needed at all three levels of this defense. It would be fantastic to see them invest something in a real linebacker. I know most people arenít high on Levis, but I think heís got a great shot at being very effective. Past my initial shock and disappointment of free agency, tired of complaining and I think Iím actually looking forward to what these guys are trying to do.
    Its going to be interesting this draft. They didn't have a lot to work with last year with the Adams trade. They have a full ammo box of 12 picks. If they draft like New England they will be moving all over the board, drafting for valve and even picking up some draft capitol for next year. We will see, its going to be fun. I just love the draft, even though the Raiders the past few years leave me scratching my head.

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    If Stroud or Young somehow make it to 7, I think they will be the pick. I don't think they are going to go after Richardson or Levis at 7. I think only Levis will possibly be available there because the first 2 picks will be Stroud/Young and I think Richardson will be drafted by the Seahawks. Unless a great offer comes, we pick the best defensive player available. If we trade down, I expect to accumulate more 2nd/3 round picks...maybe even a late 1(Eagles 10 and 30 plus a late round pick to move up 7?). I don't think we trade down past 14 or 15. The Eagles, Titans, Jets, and Patriots are all interesting trade down possibilitie especially if both Gonzalez and Witherspoon are sitting at 7.
    Last edited by Ra1derfan53; 03-23-2023 at 04:15 AM.

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    My draft board for the first pick:

    1. Will Anderson Jr.
    2. Jalen Carter
    3. Tyree Wilson

    I'm hoping four quarterbacks go before the Raiders pick so one of these players is available. If not, I would consider moving down a few spots
    and still pickup:

    4. Joey Porter Jr.
    5. Devon Witherspoon
    6. Christian Gonzalez
    7. Lukas Van Ness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnkr View Post
    My draft board for the first pick:

    1. Will Anderson Jr.
    2. Jalen Carter
    3. Tyree Wilson

    I'm hoping four quarterbacks go before the Raiders pick so one of these players is available. If not, I would consider moving down a few spots
    and still pickup:

    4. Joey Porter Jr.
    5. Devon Witherspoon
    6. Christian Gonzalez
    7. Lukas Van Ness

    I think Wilson or Anderson would immediately upgrade our D. Imagine Anderson in the first then the big T from Ohio State in the second. The game is won in the trenches.

    Carter scares me. On film he is dominant, but dominating in college is different than dominating in the pros, playing against grown men. Plus, what player doesn’t prepare for his pro day to the point he gained weight and was out of breath? Stupid. His drag racing could point to Ruggs-like problems down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabidraider View Post
    Its going to be interesting this draft. They didn't have a lot to work with last year with the Adams trade. They have a full ammo box of 12 picks. If they draft like New England they will be moving all over the board, drafting for valve and even picking up some draft capitol for next year. We will see, its going to be fun. I just love the draft, even though the Raiders the past few years leave me scratching my head.
    Don't worry the 2 stooges are gone. Those 2 peacocks didn't have a lick of sense when it came to evaluating talent. With 12 picks this should be a fun draft!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyHater View Post
    Don't worry the 2 stooges are gone. Those 2 peacocks didn't have a lick of sense when it came to evaluating talent. With 12 picks this should be a fun draft!!
    This will be a successful draft if we get one Pro Bowl-caliber starter immediately, three more solid starters by the middle of next season and four or five solid back ups with the potential to strongly compete for starting jobs in year two. Anything more than this is phenomenal.

    I hope Zeigler moves up and down the draft like a skilled pianist uses the keyboard. If you look back at teams that had quantum lesps, they had great drafts and added Pro Bowl and quality starter that elevated their teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiderman41 View Post
    This will be a successful draft if we get one Pro Bowl-caliber starter immediately, three more solid starters by the middle of next season and four or five solid back ups with the potential to strongly compete for starting jobs in year two. Anything more than this is phenomenal.

    I hope Zeigler moves up and down the draft like a skilled pianist uses the keyboard. If you look back at teams that had quantum lesps, they had great drafts and added Pro Bowl and quality starter that elevated their teams.
    The draft is deep on defense. Zeigler would have to really goof up not to get a player who makes a difference this season.
    I can see moving up in the second or third to get players they see as starters instead of projects.
    McDaniels scares me. He's the guy who traded a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to draft Tebow.

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