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    I don't want to spend big money on Jimmy G who is always hurt and still needs surgery. There are a lot of QB's in this years draft but who knows if any of them are going to end up elite. Let's hope we make a wise decision because it is going to set the future of the franchise.

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    People with prominent roles in the national sports media are still banging the drum and reporting that Derek Carr will ultimately be released and he has not trade value. Steve Wyche of NFL Network said, 'why would Carr help the Raiders and weaken the team he is going to with the trade package that would come back to the Raiders'. He then went on to say 'he didn't see a trade happening'.

    Jim Trotter on this same network, said his sources are telling him that Carr has less than a 1% chance of being traded.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbkEdRU9A14

    Mike Florio who has been reporting the only options for the Raiders and Derek Carr is 'pay me or cut me' for weeks now. Florio doubled down yesterday. Peter King asked the question, why would a team send a 3rd round pick and take on Carr's contract?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_alltgbX5Ww

    JT the Brick said the Raiders might get a 3rd round pick for Carr, so we will see.

    Here are my thoughts again, so there is no confusion. The Raiders are firmly under the cap. So if Carr's contract were to kick in and become fully guaranteed on April 15, the Raiders have to room to absorb it. April 15 means nothing to me and is really not a factor. A team trading for Carr and A. take on the contract as it is written now. And B. Can easily be restructured or in some cases, ripped up with a new contract being given to Carr from his new team. So there really is no deadline.

    With that said, I do think a trade will happen before the Super Bowl.

    So to those saying there is really no trade value for Derek Carr and he will ultimately be released, I again say Bull Sh*t!!!

    My sources continue to tell me from around the country, there is a huge market for Derek Carr, and Dave Ziegler is taking on the role of an auctioneer right now.

    It's really quite simple. It's supply and demand. Derek Carr is the best option out there for any team looking for a QB. And there are many. So to give DC away for nothing is absolutey ludicrous!!!

    The only way Dave Zeigler can save face is to get a haul for Derek Carr. And market value again for DC is a first, second, and third round pick, plus a quality starter, if not more. Anything less, including a release as many are predicting, and Dave Ziegler is committing professional suicide.

    Again they better get this right, because when DC goes to his new team and starts winning and if the Raiders don't, Ziegler and McDaniels will have a hard time getting jobs as water boys!!!

    In terms of releasing Carr, I don't know how you release a top 10 franchise QB who is on his prime and get nothing in return. Top 10 franchise QB's don't grow on trees. And if you want one, you've got to pay to get one.

    To the argument made, teams know the Raiders are moving on from Carr and will just wait until they release him. Why didn't teams just wait for Watson to be released last year? Or Alex Smith? Or Russel Wilson? In all three examples, teams knew they were done with their repsective teams.

    So what's it going to be my brothers and sisters? I've doubled down myself. I call the hands of Florio, Peter King, Steve Wyche, Jim Trotter, JT the Brick, Paul Gutierrez, Rich Cimini, Katherine Terrell, and all of you!

    My sources or yours!?!?!?!

    F.I.B. Savior

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    Dummy, we know Carr is worth some draft capitol. His contract deadline and no trade is the issue. If no team wants to spend draft capitol and the Raiders don't want to risk being on the hook for 40 million they will cut him. Its that simple. You throw every scenario possible in hope to being right. We know you are a poser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabidraider View Post
    Dummy, we know Carr is worth some draft capitol. His contract deadline and no trade is the issue. If no team wants to spend draft capitol and the Raiders don't want to risk being on the hook for 40 million they will cut him. Its that simple. You throw every scenario possible in hope to being right. We know you are a poser.
    You seem to comment on every post I write. Within minutes actually, sometimes seconds. Do you have a life outside this board? For someone who hangs on every word I write, you're beoming way too obsessive.

    And when you say, we all know as in everyone, that Carr has some value, I've listed several examples where that's not the belief, not only from the national sports media, but many members on this board. So your statement is false in saying "We all know'.

    The contract deadline again is not the issue. And supply me any type of report or article that says Carr is not waiving his no trade clause and it's an issue. And I'm telling you multiple teams will indeed spend draft capital for Derek Carr.

    Again, since you seem to have a hard time processing things, so here it is again. The Raiders won't be on the hook for Carr's 40 million in gaurantees. For argument sake, let's say a trade doesn't happen before Feb 15. Why couldn't the Raiders trade him at any point after Feb 15? Trades can't become official anyways until March 15.

    There are too many QB needy teams and not enough quality QB's to fill all these needs. Sooner or later, someone will come calling. And as I've reported from the start, many teams have already called and are continuing to call. There are plenty of teams Carr will waive his no trade clause for. Again, it's not an issue.

    If I'm a dummy, poser, and I'm wrong all the time. Move on and stop reading my threads. Pretty simple. Try bringing some value or just move on!

    F.I.B. Savior

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    [QUOTE=F.I.B. Savior;135759]You seem to comment on every post I write. Within minutes actually, sometimes seconds. Do you have a life outside this board? For someone who hangs on every word I write, you're beoming way too obsessive.

    And when you say, we all know as in everyone, that Carr has some value, I've listed several examples where that's not the belief, not only from the national sports media, but many members on this board. So your statement is false in saying "We all know'.

    The contract deadline again is not the issue. And supply me any type of report or article that says Carr is not waiving his no trade clause and it's an issue. And I'm telling you multiple teams will indeed spend draft capital for Derek Carr.

    Again, since you seem to have a hard time processing things, so here it is again. The Raiders won't be on the hook for Carr's 40 million in gaurantees. For argument sake, let's say a trade doesn't happen before Feb 15. Why couldn't the Raiders trade him at any point after Feb 15? Trades can't become official anyways until March 15.

    There are too many QB needy teams and not enough quality QB's to fill all these needs. Sooner or later, someone will come calling. And as I've reported from the start, many teams have already called and are continuing to call. There are plenty of teams Carr will waive his no trade clause for. Again, it's not an issue.

    If I'm a dummy, poser, and I'm wrong all the time. Move on and stop reading my threads. Pretty simple. Try bringing some value or just move on!

    F.I.B. Savior[/QUOTE

    So instead of throwing every scenario out there, make your call on Carr. Cut, trade, picks, exact team, Raiders keep Carr etc.

  6. #16
    [QUOTE=rabidraider;135760]
    Quote Originally Posted by F.I.B. Savior View Post
    You seem to comment on every post I write. Within minutes actually, sometimes seconds. Do you have a life outside this board? For someone who hangs on every word I write, you're beoming way too obsessive.

    And when you say, we all know as in everyone, that Carr has some value, I've listed several examples where that's not the belief, not only from the national sports media, but many members on this board. So your statement is false in saying "We all know'.

    The contract deadline again is not the issue. And supply me any type of report or article that says Carr is not waiving his no trade clause and it's an issue. And I'm telling you multiple teams will indeed spend draft capital for Derek Carr.

    Again, since you seem to have a hard time processing things, so here it is again. The Raiders won't be on the hook for Carr's 40 million in gaurantees. For argument sake, let's say a trade doesn't happen before Feb 15. Why couldn't the Raiders trade him at any point after Feb 15? Trades can't become official anyways until March 15.

    There are too many QB needy teams and not enough quality QB's to fill all these needs. Sooner or later, someone will come calling. And as I've reported from the start, many teams have already called and are continuing to call. There are plenty of teams Carr will waive his no trade clause for. Again, it's not an issue.

    If I'm a dummy, poser, and I'm wrong all the time. Move on and stop reading my threads. Pretty simple. Try bringing some value or just move on!

    F.I.B. Savior[/QUOTE

    So instead of throwing every scenario out there, make your call on Carr. Cut, trade, picks, exact team, Raiders keep Carr etc.
    I've already written it. The only part I can't do is give you an exact team. Right now it's a bidding war and Carr is being auctioned off to the highest bidder. I've given you the teams who are in on the bidding. Look it up!

    F.I.B. Savior

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