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Thread: The Enigma that is Derek Carr

  1. #761
    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    I can confirm the raiders will squat on him if a deal is not done by the feb date
    Got good sources, bass? I think you’re probably right. But this is a step or threat for the Raiders to get more leverage.

    So, let’s say the Raiders decide to sit on him, do nothing February 15 and he gets $40M guaranteed over two years? That’s not prohibitive in today’s QB contract environments. $40M over two years.

    So, what happens then? The Raiders likely don’t play him and don’t allow him to show up for mini camp. Why risk injury?

    And now instead of being the only QB on the market, as he is now, Carr might be the second, third or fourth choice among teams looking for QBs, behind elites like Jackson, Brady, Garrapolo and maybe even Rodgers. Where does Carr fit in this pecking order? Last. Before Carr goes anywhere, he would have to wait for the others to sort themselves out.

    Now, a little of the leverage moves from Carr to the Raiders. Carr doesn’t want to sit. Carr wants to move on. Careers are short. It’s kind of like what happened to Baker Mayfield. If Carr is playing somewhere else in 2023 (highly likely), Carr will want to join another team sooner than later. After all, let’s say he shows up late, plays poorly (like this year). Do you think another team would want to renegotiate his contract and extend him?

    So, what is the best course of action? Carr goes to another team, traded in the next two weeks. He gets to choose a good fit for him. He gets an early start on free agency.

    I think the Carr camp may have been “assholes” in these negotiations. I have a feeling Carr may be too picky right now, instead of picking a good situation. Knowing this, the Raiders haven’t allowed Carr to seek his own trade and now the Raiders are threatening to just sit on him.

    I think it’s all a game right now, trying to determine who gives in first. The Raiders also may not have been offered much for CRr, thinking that teams are low balling them. So, the Raiders try to take back a little leverage in these negotiations.

    We will likely learn more by early next week if Carr will be traded before Feb. 15.

  2. #762
    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    I can confirm the raiders will squat on him if a deal is not done by the feb date
    Have heard the same. They'll go the Browns/Mayfield route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vioraider View Post
    It would really suck for him to do nothing and collect 40 million. Thatíll teach him! Give him the Marcus Allen treatment. This organization looked foolish doing that to Allen. Not a smart move and a bad look.

    Yeah, I Agree !!!

  4. #764
    So when they keep Carr on the team for more leverage, how does that affect getting top tier players for the O-line and defense? Can we still afford it?

  5. #765
    Quote Originally Posted by DARAIDAHS View Post
    So when they keep Carr on the team for more leverage, how does that affect getting top tier players for the O-line and defense? Can we still afford it?
    Have among the top free cap dollars, even with Carr.

  6. #766
    Quote Originally Posted by raiderman41 View Post
    Have among the top free cap dollars, even with Carr.
    Keeping him past the deadline could help us. The Jets don't get Brady, Rodgers, Jimmy G or whoever the fuck...we could get more from them. Same goes for Tampa, Panthers, etc. Injuries happen too. The Browns did it with Mayfield when everyone thought they'd release him. They only got a 5th but it's better than nothing I guess. Problem is it could also backfire

  7. #767
    Quote Originally Posted by raiderman41 View Post
    Have among the top free cap dollars, even with Carr.
    If they go after a veteran QB instead of keeping Stidham they would need to pay a good amount of that cap dollars, unless Brady takes a team friendly sum to build the team as he is known to do.

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