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    2020 Mock Draft

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine

    I went just the first round:

    Love
    Laviska

    Have fun

    Edited to add: I did it again and the second time I went
    Love
    Reagor (i think Reagor would be our Tyreek Hill)
    Last edited by xramfan; 02-15-2020 at 03:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xramfan View Post
    https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine

    I went just the first round:

    Love
    Laviska

    Have fun

    Edited to add: I did it again and the second time I went
    Love
    Reagor (i think Reagor would be our Tyreek Hill)
    Thankfully you are not in the draft room. Have you ever seen Love play? If you have you never would want to see him taking snaps for a team that you like. Some team will draft him early and he will be out of the league when his contract is done. He should not be drafted before the 4th round and should consider a position change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psly2124 View Post
    Thankfully you are not in the draft room. Have you ever seen Love play? If you have you never would want to see him taking snaps for a team that you like. Some team will draft him early and he will be out of the league when his contract is done. He should not be drafted before the 4th round and should consider a position change.
    Its possible he will suck in the NFL in fact the odds are always against the QBs having NFL success but I have seen him make plays that our current QB could never do. He has the freakish athleticism that if controlled he may do very well. Either way my philosophy is you have to keep rolling the dice for QBs until you finally land a great one. What we have now will not take us to the post season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xramfan View Post
    Its possible he will suck in the NFL in fact the odds are always against the QBs having NFL success but I have seen him make plays that our current QB could never do. He has the freakish athleticism that if controlled he may do very well. Either way my philosophy is you have to keep rolling the dice for QBs until you finally land a great one. What we have now will not take us to the post season.
    Your philosophy is the Browns philosophy. It gets GM's fired year in and year out. Because you want to keep rolling the dice, the team doesn't improve. It actually gets worse each and every year. You are correct this is not a playoff team. One more solid draft, this will be a playoff team. If you keep rolling hte dice, it will never be a playoff team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psly2124 View Post
    Your philosophy is the Browns philosophy. It gets GM's fired year in and year out. Because you want to keep rolling the dice, the team doesn't improve. It actually gets worse each and every year. You are correct this is not a playoff team. One more solid draft, this will be a playoff team. If you keep rolling hte dice, it will never be a playoff team.
    Keeping Carr appears to be getting coaches and GMs fired. In 6 years Derek has lost 55 games. The only QB in the NFL to have a worse record in their first 6 years is his brother David. Carr can go to the post season but he will need to be carried by a running game and stellar defense. We can grab many QBs to do that role and save a ton of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xramfan View Post
    Keeping Carr appears to be getting coaches and GMs fired. In 6 years Derek has lost 55 games. The only QB in the NFL to have a worse record in their first 6 years is his brother David. Carr can go to the post season but he will need to be carried by a running game and stellar defense. We can grab many QBs to do that role and save a ton of money.
    I don't care how many games he lost. Expansion teams had more talent than the Raiders roster. The Raiders defense has been the worst in the history of the NFL. 13 straight years giving up at least 370 points. It's given up close to 900 points the past two seasons. That is beyond awful. Reggie McKenzie could go down as the worst GM in the history of the NFL. He had no business running a team, signing free agents or in a draft room. Dennis Allen was a terrible head coach and should of never been hired. Jack del Rio was a decent head coach and Carr won 12 games as the QB of the team. Reggie Mckenize failed miserably to get any type of talent on the team and should have been fired in 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psly2124 View Post
    I don't care how many games he lost. Expansion teams had more talent than the Raiders roster. The Raiders defense has been the worst in the history of the NFL. 13 straight years giving up at least 370 points. It's given up close to 900 points the past two seasons. That is beyond awful. Reggie McKenzie could go down as the worst GM in the history of the NFL. He had no business running a team, signing free agents or in a draft room. Dennis Allen was a terrible head coach and should of never been hired. Jack del Rio was a decent head coach and Carr won 12 games as the QB of the team. Reggie Mckenize failed miserably to get any type of talent on the team and should have been fired in 2017.
    Youre moving goalposts all over the place but I wont argue on behalf of Reggie except for his first 2 years. Inheriting a team in full blown Cap Hell, almost no draft picks for 2 years and an aging team. DA never had a prayer and it was amazing he won as many games as he did. Can you recall how many reputable head coaches were lining up to coach the Raiders that first year after Al died? I dont recall. Anyway, back to my point regarding Carr....he is simply a mediocre QB. Dont have the list in front of me now but isnt he like 1-10 against KC and only slightly better against Denver? I think we are 500 against the Chargers. That tells me he will win some games against average teams but will mostly lose against post season teams especially on the road in cold weather. $125 million? No thanks, goodbye Carr. Now back to the top of the thread, who do you pick in the draft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xramfan View Post
    Youre moving goalposts all over the place but I wont argue on behalf of Reggie except for his first 2 years. Inheriting a team in full blown Cap Hell, almost no draft picks for 2 years and an aging team. DA never had a prayer and it was amazing he won as many games as he did. Can you recall how many reputable head coaches were lining up to coach the Raiders that first year after Al died? I dont recall. Anyway, back to my point regarding Carr....he is simply a mediocre QB. Dont have the list in front of me now but isnt he like 1-10 against KC and only slightly better against Denver? I think we are 500 against the Chargers. That tells me he will win some games against average teams but will mostly lose against post season teams especially on the road in cold weather. $125 million? No thanks, goodbye Carr. Now back to the top of the thread, who do you pick in the draft?
    Not true. He didn't have draft picks for 1 year. He inherited a team that was 8-8 and before Campbell got hurt was 6-2. They were a playoff team the following year with Carson Palmer as the QB. Reggie decided to gut the team. That was his decision. I don't care what salary cap place the Raiders were in, you can choose to be competitive or tank. Reggie decided to tank and bank on that he would be able to draft. He couldn't. He was a complete failure. So Reggie Mckenzie and Dennis Allen get passes because the teams were so terrible that Reggie put on the field. I'm arguing they teams the Raiders put out the past two season was just as bad and lacked the talent of those teams. Yes last year Mayock drafted very well and the team had an influx of young talent. And the team had a shot at the playoffs before injuries set in. Why is it that cold weather play lies solely on the QB? The whole team stinks in cold weather, offense and defense. Sure Carr plays bad in cold weather. Who plays good? Nobody on the Raiders. That is usually the case when warm weather teams go into cold weather. Just the same as when teams go into Miami in September. Teams can't take the humidity. And the Dolphins historically play well in September. And teams coming into Miami, not so much. THe Radiers roster cannot compete with playoff teams. You are correct. If we could compete with playoff teams, we would be a playoff team. Over the past 20 years this has been the worst franchise in all of sports. Maybe the Knicks are as bad. Find me a team with worse talent then these Raider teams over the past 6 years. Maybe the Browns. That's it. So no, Carr and this team cannot compete with playoff teams, when they have had the worst roster in football.

    I would pick Juedy at 12 trade down from 19 and try to pick up a 2nd or 3rd and 5th. If unable to trade down. I would take Delpit at 19, we need a playmaker in the secondary that can create turnovers. If Delpit isn't available it would be Murray or Queen. I wasn't a big Queen fan but he will make a better pro. I'm warming up to speedy linebackers. I've realized the NFL is moving away from tackling machines at linebacker and are transitioning to smaller quicker lb's.
    Last edited by psly2124; 02-21-2020 at 03:44 AM.

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    We couldnt be further apart as to our opinions on what DA and RM inherited but thats OK.....its buried in the dark past. I still think this team makes the playoffs last year with a QB who actually has balls instead of a vagina that goes full yellow and fetal when he hears someone yell blitz. We all agree the defense sucks ass but Carr and the offense only averaged 19 points a game with very few second half TDs. With a great running game, great TE group and average WR`s........that falls on the Fresno Frauds shoulders. He sux.

    I`m still thinking I would grab Love in the 1st but I also like Delpit and Queen. So many potentially great WRs available but my personal favorite is Reagor as I see him as our Tyreek Hill capable of anything everytime he gets the ball. So much depends on what we get in FA....

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