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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    nope had mahomes high on my draft board,had wilson as a high 2nd rd talent,had lamar as a steal as a 2nd rd talent,also had josh allen as the top qb that yr too
    Cool. I've got Tua at the top of my board and wish list.

    Get it done, Mike and Jon.

    No whiskey.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDERMAN818 View Post
    Go get him, Jon and Mike.

    Here's the plan....move up to 3 to be sure.

    Have to figure that it's going to be Burrow 1 and then Young 2.

    Move to 3 and unless someone leap-frogs us, we've got our guy.

    If you morons don't want Tua at 3, then we can take Juedy or whatever other WR you think is going to magically transform Carrbage into Patrick Mahomes or whatever defensive monster you think is going to transform our defense into the 85 Bears.

    Or we can stand pat at 12 and 19, and roll into Vegas with the mediocre pussy at the helm and the face of the franchise. That way we can have the same discussion about replacing Carrbage in 2021, which I'm sure you're all looking forward to.

    Jon, I know you can't possibly want to suffer through another year of pussyboy.

    Do the right thing.
    The same discussion we had last year and this year is what?

    1 side is Gruden & Mayock wanting to see IF Carr can become elite with an NFL AVERAGE + WR core.
    They see todayís nextGen TQBR top 10 QB. A guy thatís doing what Gruden probably taught him. Get the ball out to your playmakers, donít turn the ball over or take unnecessary hits.
    They see that and think, what can he do with something better than a #3 WR with plantar fasciitis as his #1 WR?

    Then the other side sees a guy not pushing the envelope (like Winston) and not trusting his WRs (like Brady)

    So your simply arguing against the Raiders decision makers who have a combined 100 years of elite NFL/college player breakdowns and coaching. Thatís who your arguing against.

    Also.....
    Top 3 pick?
    After the Medicalís come out, about 5 teams will be talking to Detroit about that #3 pick.
    Detroit needs a CB and JEFFREY OKUDAH is by far the top guy.
    Lions wonít want to pick passed #7 at the lowest to secure him. Maybe thatís too low for them. Unless a godfather offer is presented.

    So the reality would be Raiders #12, #19, 2 of our 3rds, and next years first.
    For Tua who might not play in 2020.
    No drafting a WR, no drafting a top LBer. The only picks weíd have are a late 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th.
    What kind if draft would we have with that?
    Who remembers the draft we had to deal with after the Carson Palmer trade?
    This is it.
    Oh and then give up the following years 1st.

    Anyone love what the Rams are doing by giving up valuable draft picks for big swings?
    Itís starting to come back and haunt them. They are done!

    What a depressing looking team this would be heading into Vegas.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Pitzrrr View Post
    The same discussion we had last year and this year is what?

    1 side is Gruden & Mayock wanting to see IF Carr can become elite with an NFL AVERAGE + WR core.
    Last time I checked it's 2020 and year 7 of Pussyboy.

    I wanted to read the rest of your bullshit, but after the 'Carr can become elite' line, I just couldn't do it.

    Thanks for the laugh though.

  4. #24
    No way Gruden and Mayock should even think about giving up what it would take to jump high enough to get Tua. They would be cutting their nose off to spite their face.

  5. #25
    If we take Tua I'll be pissed. Unless he were to shockingly drop to the 3rd round, NO THANKS. Too hard to tell how much of his success was actually him or because the team is filled with already NFL level talent who played lots of cupcakes. Most of his throws I've seen is him either running or just jacking up the ball for his 5 star WRs.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Bama_Raider View Post
    No way Gruden and Mayock should even think about giving up what it would take to jump high enough to get Tua. They would be cutting their nose off to spite their face.
    Exactly, holes that %100 NEED to be filled:

    WR:
    We have 1 nice NFL WR in Renfrow. T-Will was injured all year and might be cut. It’s one of the thinnest FA WR classes ever. BUT the BEST and deepest WR class in history!!
    Imagine ignoring this position because if a crazy trade up?!

    LBer:
    We need a COMPLETE reset.
    Whitehead has been our best LBer over 2 years but overall he’s not good.
    Burfict will be back again on a small 1 year deal, but he can be suspended any second again.
    We need ALOT of help.
    Imagine ignoring this position because if a crazy trade up?!

    Needed but not an emergency like the WR & LB-

    DL:
    A big time 3 tech for Coach Gs D would be great.
    DE needs depth, cant just count on the 2 kids

    RB:
    Jacobs is our future but we need a nice #2.
    Jacobs was banged up half the year then his body gave out. Give him help!

    CB:
    We have Mullen who looks great but who else? So many questions at this position.

    Imagine ignoring all these positions because of a crazy trade up?!

    Disaster!

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Pitzrrr View Post
    Imagine ignoring all these positions because of a crazy trade up?!

    Disaster!
    What makes you think all these positions would be ignored ?

    The biggest disaster will be ignoring the fact that Carrbage is a mediocre pussy and trotting him out for a 7th year of futility.

    Team is going nowhere with Carrbage at the helm.

    Guess it's going to take assembling a team of All Pros around Pussyboy and still going nowhere before you realize and accept he's yesterday's trash.

    LMAO @ the myopic Carrbage fanclub.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDERMAN818 View Post
    What makes you think all these positions would be ignored ?

    The biggest disaster will be ignoring the fact that Carrbage is a mediocre pussy and trotting him out for a 7th year of futility.

    Team is going nowhere with Carrbage at the helm.

    Guess it's going to take assembling a team of All Pros around Pussyboy and still going nowhere before you realize and accept he's yesterday's trash.

    LMAO @ the myopic Carrbage fanclub.
    you dont need a stud at qb to win it all,see tampon bay,see bmore,see the eagles,defense wins championships and the only way our defense gets to be a top unit is via the draft with a few key pieces added in free agency,trading up for a questionable tua all the way up to pick 5 or 4 would cost us both our 1st rd picks and 1 of our 3rd rd picks,that leaves us with tua,2 3rd rd picks,a 4th rd pick,so tua,a 3rd rd wr,a 3rd rd lb,a 4th rd olb and a 5th rd oline guys vs not trading up grabbing a stud mlb and a stud wr1,3rd rd olb,oline,cb,4th safety/dline,5th rd backup rb

  9. #29
    Like we grabbed a stud DE last year with the #4 pick ?

    Big deal if we give up a mid round first and a 3rd.

    Small price to pay for a franchise QB.

    According to the Carrbage fan club, we should be able to get a 1st or 2nd rounder for him, so what's the fucking problem ?

    If we get a 2nd for Pussyboy, we'll only have a top 5 pick, a 2nd, and two thirds.

    Not enough draft capital for you ?

    Plus we save money and add cap space by dumping Carrbage's 20 million salary.

    That only leaves us with a top 5 overall pick, a 2nd and two 3rds + about 100 million in cap space.

    OMG, the world is falling if we dare to move up !

    The way the Pussyboy fan club clings to Carrbage is ridiculous.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDERMAN818 View Post
    Like we grabbed a stud DE last year with the #4 pick ?

    Big deal if we give up a mid round first and a 3rd.

    Small price to pay for a franchise QB.

    According to the Carrbage fan club, we should be able to get a 1st or 2nd rounder for him, so what's the fucking problem ?

    If we get a 2nd for Pussyboy, we'll only have a top 5 pick, a 2nd, and two thirds.

    Not enough draft capital for you ?

    Plus we save money and add cap space by dumping Carrbage's 20 million salary.

    That only leaves us with a top 5 overall pick, a 2nd and two 3rds + about 100 million in cap space.

    OMG, the world is falling if we dare to move up !

    The way the Pussyboy fan club clings to Carrbage is ridiculous.
    tua is not gonna be a franchise qb,dudes already injury prone and with a serious hip injury now,we have no idea how that hip affects his throwing and ability to escape pressure or ability to run,bad enough he doesn't even have a great arm or size to begin with

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