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  1. #101
    Wish someone would talk Carrbage into immediate retirement.

  2. #102
    Derek has the 12th best QBR in the league. Okay, so stats don't always tell the story. I get it.

    What I don't get, is you want the guy to go away now and replace him with someone who's QBR probably never cracked 25, and has been on multiple teams in his first few years.

    When Mack's first game as a Bear split the boards the conversation was basically we screwed up letting him go, or he wasn't worth keeping and is overrated.

    The overrated crowd pointed out that when he was dominating, it was because Kiser was in the game. And this is the guy you want to take over right now?

    This just blows my mind. You act as if Carr is holding this team back. Back from what?

    Do you think this team should have 9 wins right now looking to go 10-6 or 11-5? It's a playoff team only if Carr wasn't the starter?

    There are a lot of guys on this team you could make this thread about, before it's about Carr.

    If the team around him gets better, and they still don't win, then you know for sure. This year the team improved slightly and they have slightly more wins.

    All in all, my point is if you want to replace Carr, do it with someone better. I have doubts myself, but I know there are a lot worse starting QB's out there and I don't want the team to have any more serious setbacks on their rebuild. It's gotta be a drafted QB.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by dmauke View Post
    Derek has the 12th best QBR in the league. Okay, so stats don't always tell the story. I get it.

    What I don't get, is you want the guy to go away now and replace him with someone who's QBR probably never cracked 25, and has been on multiple teams in his first few years.

    When Mack's first game as a Bear split the boards the conversation was basically we screwed up letting him go, or he wasn't worth keeping and is overrated.

    The overrated crowd pointed out that when he was dominating, it was because Kiser was in the game. And this is the guy you want to take over right now?

    This just blows my mind. You act as if Carr is holding this team back. Back from what?

    Do you think this team should have 9 wins right now looking to go 10-6 or 11-5? It's a playoff team only if Carr wasn't the starter?

    There are a lot of guys on this team you could make this thread about, before it's about Carr.

    If the team around him gets better, and they still don't win, then you know for sure. This year the team improved slightly and they have slightly more wins.

    All in all, my point is if you want to replace Carr, do it with someone better. I have doubts myself, but I know there are a lot worse starting QB's out there and I don't want the team to have any more serious setbacks on their rebuild. It's gotta be a drafted QB.
    carr is not the reason why were losing,its the defense's inability to stop anybody put lamar jackson or mahomes on this team and we might have a few more wins but forget about going far into the playoffs or being a true contender,at the beginning of the yr most experts thought we would have at most 5 or 6 wins were at 6 wins going on 7 after this week with 2 more winnable games coming up and lets not forget the texans game that the defense 100% lost for us

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    carr is not the reason why were losing,its the defense's inability to stop anybody put lamar jackson or mahomes on this team and we might have a few more wins but forget about going far into the playoffs or being a true contender,at the beginning of the yr most experts thought we would have at most 5 or 6 wins were at 6 wins going on 7 after this week with 2 more winnable games coming up and lets not forget the texans game that the defense 100% lost for us
    Lots of inexperienced players and just some terrible ones on Defense. I like Whitehead but he cannot cover anyone in this league. I like the scheme but they don't have the safeties or the linebackers to run it right now.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by dmauke View Post
    Derek has the 12th best QBR in the league. Okay, so stats don't always tell the story. I get it.

    What I don't get, is you want the guy to go away now and replace him with someone who's QBR probably never cracked 25, and has been on multiple teams in his first few years.

    When Mack's first game as a Bear split the boards the conversation was basically we screwed up letting him go, or he wasn't worth keeping and is overrated.

    The overrated crowd pointed out that when he was dominating, it was because Kiser was in the game. And this is the guy you want to take over right now?

    This just blows my mind. You act as if Carr is holding this team back. Back from what?

    Do you think this team should have 9 wins right now looking to go 10-6 or 11-5? It's a playoff team only if Carr wasn't the starter?

    There are a lot of guys on this team you could make this thread about, before it's about Carr.

    If the team around him gets better, and they still don't win, then you know for sure. This year the team improved slightly and they have slightly more wins.

    All in all, my point is if you want to replace Carr, do it with someone better. I have doubts myself, but I know there are a lot worse starting QB's out there and I don't want the team to have any more serious setbacks on their rebuild. It's gotta be a drafted QB.
    Do you want to win a Superbowl or not? That's the question here. Carr is a game manager at best. He hasn't shown the ability to win meaningful games since 2016. He can't win when it's cold, can't win against KC at KC (divisional opponent), and he doesn't take the chances to make major plays. Unless all is right on the team, I don't see him winning us anything

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Ra1derfan53 View Post
    Do you want to win a Superbowl or not? That's the question here. Carr is a game manager at best. He hasn't shown the ability to win meaningful games since 2016. He can't win when it's cold, can't win against KC at KC (divisional opponent), and he doesn't take the chances to make major plays. Unless all is right on the team, I don't see him winning us anything
    QB's don't win SB's, teams do. I don't know if Carr can win one or not, he hasn't been on a team good enough to win one yet and the only team that was close didn't win another game after he was injured. So, if Foles can beat the Patriots for a SB, then at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Carr could. Winning SB's is not easy, and you just can't go out and get a QB an then automatically measure your ring finger.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Ra1derfan53 View Post
    Do you want to win a Superbowl or not? That's the question here. Carr is a game manager at best. He hasn't shown the ability to win meaningful games since 2016. He can't win when it's cold, can't win against KC at KC (divisional opponent), and he doesn't take the chances to make major plays. Unless all is right on the team, I don't see him winning us anything
    have you ever heard that defense wins championships,our defense stinks,derek carr had the texans beat but the defense gave that one away,the 3 losses were all blowouts if derek carr had the rams defense and wade phillips as d cord he would be on a contender,carr is better the goff imo

  8. #108
    Carrbage is a gutless POS loser that will NEVER take this team to the top of the mountain.

    He's still living off the fluke 2016 season.

    Amazed by how many myopic fans still can't see what Derek Fucking Carrbage is.

    He's a clueless one-read, check-down pussy that's scared shitless of taking a hit.

    All arm talent and NOTHING more.

    Instead of wondering what Carrbage would be like with a better team, you should be wondering what the Raiders would be like with a better QB !!!

    I don't give a fuck if we have to go through a dozen Nathan Petermans or Kizers trying to find a true franchise QB.

    Anything is better long term than standing pat with gutless loser Carrbage.

    6 fucking years and you're still 'evaluating' Carrbage and wondering 'what if' he had a team of All Pros surrounding him. LMAO !

    Newsflash: Just about any QB can win with an All Pro supporting cast. The idea is to find a QB that can win without an All Pro supporting cast. Find a fucking QB that can elevate and carry the team and not vice versa.

    Time to move on from DC.

    ABC

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    I think the chances of Carr returning next season are high. Gruden has been talking him up for weeks and he's not doing that to sell him to another team. The other 31 GMs are not going to listen to what Gruden has to say, good or bad.

  10. #110
    Carr's attributes: positive outlook, great guy, can make all the throws, athletic, says all the right things, physically sound, 4th quarter comeback guru, great stats.

    Carr's negatives: Check-down abuser, first read proficient, voluntarily sacks himself, throws out of bounds or grounds ball in crucial times, panics in the pocket, will not give receivers a chance to make a play on the ball, when he does decide to throw the ball downfield (greater than 10 yds) he throws it only to wide open receivers or into triple coverage, does not see the entire field, many times does not see open receivers, 3 and out specialist, blames receivers for his own ineptitude, often times makes our defense more tired by being on the field a lot more, deflates team with crucial bonehead plays.

    If these negatives are acceptable to you, then Carr is your guy.

    Carr's negatives are not dependent on the rest of the team mind you. Even with a better supporting cast on defense and offense, the problem still remains, and that is Carr's inability to make sound game time decisions in the face of pressure.

    Unless you can draft a defense that will turn back time and erase the injuries Carr had and therefore his fear of getting hurt again, I don't know what a better defense will do to help Carr. If the defense can always hold an opponent to zero points and score some too then that might help us win a lot of games, barring any pick 6 or the like on offense.

    To not recognize these deficiencies in Carr's game is mystifying, it's seeing Carr's game through rose colored glasses. Yes the whole team needs upgrading, but to not see this also needs to be done at the QB position is puzzling. I can understand the fear of getting rid of Carr and winding up with someone worse, but as it stands now, we will not fare well with Carr, we need to take the chance or forever live in mediocrity. He is not the 2016 Carr we all loved, this is a broken down Carr that has been in many accidents and is afraid of getting more dents and being in the shop again. At this point he is just trying to put as much mileage he can on his odometer.

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