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    Carr under center

    Who was it that said Carr cant play under center? Well last night he was great under center, play actions, roll outs. Loved it. He is becoming a complete QB. Shows what some good coaching can do. A few years ago he was an exclusively shotgun/pistol QB. Now he mixes up the formations at will.

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    Let's not jump to conclusions based on one home game vs a 4-win team. The ball was out of Carr's hands in 2.2 seconds on average in that Monday night game. It was a masterful game-plan drawn up by Gruden and yes, Carr also made some phenomenal throws. Carr's issues were never about accuracy/power, he's excellent in both of those areas. The issues surrounding car have always come down to how well he plays when facing pressure. He was hit ZERO times on Monday night thanks to the play calling and excellent offensive line play. Let's wait for the midway point of the season (a larger sample size always translates to more accurate judgement) before we even think about drawing any conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorRaider View Post
    Let's not jump to conclusions based on one home game vs a 4-win team. The ball was out of Carr's hands in 2.2 seconds on average in that Monday night game. It was a masterful game-plan drawn up by Gruden and yes, Carr also made some phenomenal throws. Carr's issues were never about accuracy/power, he's excellent in both of those areas. The issues surrounding car have always come down to how well he plays when facing pressure. He was hit ZERO times on Monday night thanks to the play calling and excellent offensive line play. Let's wait for the midway point of the season (a larger sample size always translates to more accurate judgement) before we even think about drawing any conclusions.
    True, it's great to win, look great....but it's a 16 game season. Gruden's early game scheming will face adjustments all year, can he counter those adjustments, I'm sure he can, but do we have the horses to do it. Right now it's about developing good habits, and being consistent week to week.

    We have a tough stretch of games, KC, at Minny, at Indy, at London, bye, at GB, at Houston......the test starts Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorRaider View Post
    Let's not jump to conclusions based on one home game vs a 4-win team. The ball was out of Carr's hands in 2.2 seconds on average in that Monday night game. It was a masterful game-plan drawn up by Gruden and yes, Carr also made some phenomenal throws. Carr's issues were never about accuracy/power, he's excellent in both of those areas. The issues surrounding car have always come down to how well he plays when facing pressure. He was hit ZERO times on Monday night thanks to the play calling and excellent offensive line play. Let's wait for the midway point of the season (a larger sample size always translates to more accurate judgement) before we even think about drawing any conclusions.
    My post was about him looking good under center. Many here said he was one dimensional and couldn't play well under center. He looked REAL comfortable under center.

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    Don't worry the first bad game he has all the 1 dimensional football professionals will come out from under their rocks to proclaim how awful he is and how much they told everyone of that. All this talk of lets wait for a larger sample size will go right out the window when he has a bad game, they will declare the back up as the hero to be immediately!

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    having josh jacobs and darren waller to go with good oline plays will ensure derek carr plays up to his 2016 form,kids already throwing the long ball more and accurately that in itself is a victory when our team is has legit field stretchers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    having josh jacobs and darren waller to go with good oline plays will ensure derek carr plays up to his 2016 form,kids already throwing the long ball more and accurately that in itself is a victory when our team is has legit field stretchers
    Jacobs and Waller are HUGE for this team right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    having josh jacobs and darren waller to go with good oline plays will ensure derek carr plays up to his 2016 form,kids already throwing the long ball more and accurately that in itself is a victory when our team is has legit field stretchers
    Exactly, you get their DB's looking at Tyrell, Jacobs and Waller, in Gruden fashion he will slide, Moreau, Renfrow and Grant underneath for more of a west coast style of take what they give you. Even on that Jacob's reception and run, Tyrell and Waller were taking the lid off, with Jacobs trailing their routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD707 View Post
    Don't worry the first bad game he has all the 1 dimensional football professionals will come out from under their rocks to proclaim how awful he is and how much they told everyone of that. All this talk of lets wait for a larger sample size will go right out the window when he has a bad game, they will declare the back up as the hero to be immediately!
    4 seasons is a pretty large sample size, but not to the "one dimensional" thinkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    having josh jacobs and darren waller to go with good oline plays will ensure derek carr plays up to his 2016 form,kids already throwing the long ball more and accurately that in itself is a victory when our team is has legit field stretchers
    Still needs another WR who is as good as or better than Tyrell Williams. We played lights out vs the Broncos and still only had about 350 yards of total offense. We'll need to eclipse 500 yards vs the Chiefs .. hopefully the men in the trenches step up to the plate again, it comes down to them more than any other player on the Raiders.

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