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Thread: Gruden QBs revealed for Senior Bowl

  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by jgrange View Post

    The QB class got a lot better with Murray declaring for the draft.
    I read that it’s just a formality. He had to submit he was in the draft pool because of a deadline. The big date is the A’s spring training report date. If he doesn’t show up for that, it won’t look good for Oakland.

    The same article said “sources” say he is indeed leaning towards football. Then a breakdown of money that could be made.

    Edit: now more and more sources say he’s going to he NFL. 1st rounder? Not top 10 because he’s like 5’9 right?
    Last edited by Pitzrrr; 01-10-2019 at 05:17 AM.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Pitzrrr View Post
    I read that it’s just a formality. He had to submit he was in the draft pool because of a deadline. The big date is the A’s spring training report date. If he doesn’t show up for that, it won’t look good for Oakland.

    The same article said “sources” say he is indeed leaning towards football. Then a breakdown of money that could be made.
    kyler murray automatically jumps up as pick #1 for the jags or giants if true

  3. #13
    Senior Bowl:

    I was listening to a podcast with the senior bowl director. He was always a scout and came from the Seahawks organization.
    He said this is the deepest LBer group I’ve seen in a while. NOW, it’s a little soft at the top, BUT you will be getting a great LBer prospect in rounds 3-5. Really intriguing players in those rounds.

    Interesting.

    If White is gone in the 1st, maybe we don’t force the issue reaching for a LBer in the 1st? We wait to grab a nice prospect or 2 in the mid rounds?

    I’m still hoping for a big trade down at some point. Love the 2-4th round picks. Would be nice to have multiples. Would be nicer to HIT on some of those guys

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by mstrbass2000 View Post
    kyler murray automatically jumps up as pick #1 for the jags or giants if true

    Just saw on espn they were talking about it.
    They brought on a guy (forgot his name) he talked to GMs, he said there is interest, they are very intrigued and he could be drafted on the back end of the 1st, at worst high 2nd.

    He said the concern was his height. There was grumblings on Baker Mayfields height and he was a hair over 6’0.
    He said Baker looks like Shaq O’Neil next to Murray. Murray will probably come in at 5’8.
    There’s no way he goes top 8 if true.

    Note* he DOES have the highest QBR in history since they began QBR ratings in 2004. Stud talent, but at 5’8?
    Last edited by Pitzrrr; 01-10-2019 at 07:57 AM.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Pitzrrr View Post
    Just saw on espn they were talking about it.
    They brought on a guy (forgot his name) he talked to GMs, he said there is interest, they are very intrigued and he could be drafted on the back end of the 1st, at worst high 2nd.

    He said the concern was his height. There was grumblings on Baker Mayfields height and he was a hair over 6’0.
    He said Baker looks like Shaq O’Neil next to Murray. Murray will probably come in at 5’8.
    There’s no way he goes top 8 if true.

    Note* he DOES have the highest QB in history since they began QBR ratings in 2004. Stud talent, but at 5’8?
    He has to give 4 million plus back the Oakland A's if he picks football. He's better off sticking to baseball. Longer safer career. And if good, much more money.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by rabidraider View Post
    He has to give 4 million plus back the Oakland A's if he picks football. He's better off sticking to baseball. Longer safer career. And if good, much more money.
    Is he guaranteed to be a major leaguer? It's hard to say, but when you get 4 million that's pretty much all he's going to get for at least 2-3 years, depending on how fast the A's want to promote him to the top. Even at the MLB level, he will only earn 545,000 his first 2 years. Now for the first, minimum 2 years of his career he will spend in the minor leagues. He will earn 1,100 a month. A minor league season is 5 months, April-August, they might get 6 for spring training. So given that assumption, 2019 he will get 6,600, same with 2020 he will get 6,600. Lets say he accelerates through the A's system, 2021, he reaches the majors, he will get 545K at that point. So at the end of 2021 he will have earned 4.558 million as a baseball player.

    Assume he goes 32nd in the 1st round of the NFL draft, when he signs he will get a 4.9 million signing bonus.
    2019 salary will be 480K. 2020 910K, 2021 1.3 million. So in football by 2021, he should have pocketed about 7.59 million going off Lamar Jackson's deal. Plus I think he will get a few more off the field endorsements as a football player versus a baseball player. The guy is going to be off the map when he's fishing around the minors for 2 years.

    Longevity, sure baseball, but money won't start coming in until his 4th MLB season, when he hits the arbitration years.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by rabidraider View Post
    He has to give 4 million plus back the Oakland A's if he picks football. He's better off sticking to baseball. Longer safer career. And if good, much more money.
    Long term = baseball makes more $. But the % is very very small.
    Short term = Football makes at least double the 1st 4 years. THEN you can sign a big massive contract if you succeed.

    If you succeed in baseball after 4 years, you’re not signing that big contract. Depends when you get to the majors, when your clock starts etc

    I think he’s looking at the guaranteed 8 Mil those 1st 4. Then fat contract after, baseball is a long long process to even be eligible for big daddy payday.

    He’s probably hearing he will AT LEAST be a late 1st.
    Teams don’t want to pick their franchise QB high in the 2nd because of that cheaper 5th year option if he’s succeeding.

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