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    NFL is QB-driven league, not DE or LB

    If you look across the league, the best teams are the ones with the best QBs.

    Denver won a Super Bowl a couple years ago. Who was their QB then? Peyton Manning. Since then, they've been decent, but not great.

    Last year, it was the Patriots and Eagles. Both teams got elite play from their QBs. New England competes every year. Why? Brady.

    The teams that will compete this year are the ones with great QB play. If defensive linemen were the difference maker, the Detroit Lions with Suh would have been perennial Super Bowl winners when Suh was playing with them. He was an absolutely BEAST when he was younger.

    If Gruden can get Carr to play like he did in 2016 (or even better), then the Raiders will compete.

    The formula for success in the NFL is simple:

    1) Get a franchise QB
    2) Put together a solid defense.
    3) Manage the cap so you can keep a solid core of players and sign free agents to fill in the gaps.
    4) Solid coaching.

    We have #1 if Carr does well.
    #2 - Our defense is going to be so much better with Melvin, Conley, Hurst, Hall and Key, as well as solid linebackers and better coaching.
    #3 - Not signing Mack will allow us to re-sign Cooper and field a competitive team top to bottom, this year, next year and in the foreseeable future.
    #4 - We have a great coaching staff this year.

    #2 and #3 are why we did not sign Mack to a contract that would pay him $90 million guaranteed, hamstringing our team cap-wise for the next six years.

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    Agree 100%. Still sad and disapointed though. It will take time to get over it I feel this is the equivalent of graving as a sports fan. Its like the head knows its probably for the better but the heart is heavy and hurting.

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    Denver is a bad example. They didn't win because of Peyton Manning, other than that I agree because the rules are heavily against the defense.

    Quote Originally Posted by raiderman41 View Post
    If you look across the league, the best teams are the ones with the best QBs.

    Denver won a Super Bowl a couple years ago. Who was their QB then? Peyton Manning. Since then, they've been decent, but not great.

    Last year, it was the Patriots and Eagles. Both teams got elite play from their QBs. New England competes every year. Why? Brady.

    The teams that will compete this year are the ones with great QB play. If defensive linemen were the difference maker, the Detroit Lions with Suh would have been perennial Super Bowl winners when Suh was playing with them. He was an absolutely BEAST when he was younger.

    If Gruden can get Carr to play like he did in 2016 (or even better), then the Raiders will compete.

    The formula for success in the NFL is simple:

    1) Get a franchise QB
    2) Put together a solid defense.
    3) Manage the cap so you can keep a solid core of players and sign free agents to fill in the gaps.
    4) Solid coaching.

    We have #1 if Carr does well.
    #2 - Our defense is going to be so much better with Melvin, Conley, Hurst, Hall and Key, as well as solid linebackers and better coaching.
    #3 - Not signing Mack will allow us to re-sign Cooper and field a competitive team top to bottom, this year, next year and in the foreseeable future.
    #4 - We have a great coaching staff this year.

    #2 and #3 are why we did not sign Mack to a contract that would pay him $90 million guaranteed, hamstringing our team cap-wise for the next six years.

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    Mack is water under the bridge I have moved on.

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    Yup.

    There are 32 teams in the league, 31 of them don't have Khalil Mack.

    We've been a bottom defensive team for 8 straight years now (maybe more I just haven't looked past 8 years). We've done it w/ or w/o Khalil Mack. We have an inability to build a solid defensive team. One man can't change that, no matter how dominant he is.

    Look at Denver's defense, it's been getting worse and worse ever since that one dominant year. They just keep losing players after player.

    Being a solid defense means getting solid players at every position. Solid secondary, solid linebackers and solid DLine. Getting the draft picks and the money saved can go a long ways in getting 4-5 solid guys.

    If we can turn Khalil Mack into 4 solid defensive players, then the trade makes us a better defensive team. We got 2 firsts out of it, plus the $141 mil saved from not re-signing Khalil. That can get us 2 solid free agents on defense. So if we just draft well and make a couple solid free agent signings, we can build ourselves a nice solid defense; which is something we haven't had in the last 8 years and counting.

    People say, we need to replace Khalil Mack. No we don't. 31 other teams in the league don't have Khalil Mack. The Bears last year had a top 10 defense. They didn't have Khalil Mack. How'd they do that? Who knows. But, that's all we're looking for.

    Get ourselves a top 10-15 defense and hopefully our offense becomes elite again. Then, we'll be contenders.

    I'm a Khalil Mack fan, but I'm a bigger Raiders fan. This Khalil Mack trade can really lead to us building a more solid defense. I truly believe that.

    Look at the Baltimore Ravens. They lost Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Haloti Ngata. They didn't replace them. Those are irreplaceable players. But, they managed to build up a solid defense even after losing them. Now they are lead by CJ Mosley and Terrell Suggs. Suggs is getting up there in age and they'll have to find some way to replace his production (not replace him but his production). They'll find a way because they're good at building a defense.

    And that's what we need to learn. We need to learn how to build a good defense as players come and go.

    Players get traded, they retire, they get hurt, they leave via free agency, etc. But, if you have a good system, you'll be able to keep the ship moving.
    Last edited by Raidermackin; 09-04-2018 at 04:34 PM.

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