Randy Moss

[BossTycoon]

Moss is worth at least a 2nd round pick! This guy still have potential.. If we give away Moss for anything less than a 2nd round pick, we are simply retarded. Some teams dont mind the attitude because they will try to keep him happy. It'll be better to see how he work with Kiffin..

[raidertone]

Agree......I'll take it a step further even......I'm sure we can find a team that would give us their first round pick for the guy.....**** even if it's a low first round pick, who cares......

[psly2124]

Moss is not going anywhere...and can these threads stop.

[blah_blah]

Originally Posted by BossTycoon

Moss is worth at least a 2nd round pick! This guy still have potential.. If we give away Moss for anything less than a 2nd round pick, we are simply retarded. Some teams dont mind the attitude because they will try to keep him happy. It'll be better to see how he work with Kiffin..

you do realize no matter how much potential someone has, because of their personality and what they say it devalues the player..
and top of that NFL is a "what have you done for me" type of league.. and Moss didn't do ****

and TO was traded to the Eagles for a mere 3rd rounder

[GBfan4life]

Hi guys.... GreenBay fan here again. For those who think you can keep a player who doesn't want to play for you, I'll remind you that we finally had to trade away Javon Walker (arguably one of the better receivers in the league) and Mike McKenzie (arguably one of the better cover corners in the league) because they just plain didn't want to be in GB. You can talk about benching them, yaddy, yaddy, ya dah.... but if a guy wants out.. he's out.

Sounds like Porter might buy into the Kiffin regime, but Moss has made up his mind that he's 'outta there. He has ALWAYS wanted to catch passes from Brett Favre and seems to be pushing to get traded to GB or NE. Both teams need WR's who can stretch the field and QB's who can get him the ball. It could work out best for all involved to let him go.

Neither Favre nor Brady would put up with RM's crap. Both guys have the complete support of their coaches and teammates. It would be put up or shup up time for RM - and you can bet either team's GM would structure a deal to reflect that.

Take it from a fan who hates to watch JWalk in a Broncos uniform: move on.

[OG BAMM BAMM]

Originally Posted by GBfan4life

Hi guys.... GreenBay fan here again. For those who think you can keep a player who doesn't want to play for you, I'll remind you that we finally had to trade away Javon Walker (arguably one of the better receivers in the league) and Mike McKenzie (arguably one of the better cover corners in the league) because they just plain didn't want to be in GB. You can talk about benching them, yaddy, yaddy, ya dah.... but if a guy wants out.. he's out.

Sounds like Porter might buy into the Kiffin regime, but Moss has made up his mind that he's 'outta there. He has ALWAYS wanted to catch passes from Brett Favre and seems to be pushing to get traded to GB or NE. Both teams need WR's who can stretch the field and QB's who can get him the ball. It could work out best for all involved to let him go.

Neither Favre nor Brady would put up with RM's crap. Both guys have the complete support of their coaches and teammates. It would be put up or shup up time for RM - and you can bet either team's GM would structure a deal to reflect that.

Take it from a fan who hates to watch JWalk in a Broncos uniform: move on.

I agreed


welcome aboard

[gdamac]

Originally Posted by psly2124

Moss is not going anywhere...and can these threads stop.

I was in your camp to, but now it is being reported that he won't take Kiffin's phone calls. That is a slap in the face, even if he still wants a trade take the call, if Kiffin is going to have a chance than we can't let players punk him like that, I would love it if he were to jump on board but it doesn't look like he is going to

[dizzle06]

Originally Posted by GBfan4life

Hi guys.... GreenBay fan here again. For those who think you can keep a player who doesn't want to play for you, I'll remind you that we finally had to trade away Javon Walker (arguably one of the better receivers in the league) and Mike McKenzie (arguably one of the better cover corners in the league) because they just plain didn't want to be in GB. You can talk about benching them, yaddy, yaddy, ya dah.... but if a guy wants out.. he's out.

Sounds like Porter might buy into the Kiffin regime, but Moss has made up his mind that he's 'outta there. He has ALWAYS wanted to catch passes from Brett Favre and seems to be pushing to get traded to GB or NE. Both teams need WR's who can stretch the field and QB's who can get him the ball. It could work out best for all involved to let him go.

Neither Favre nor Brady would put up with RM's crap. Both guys have the complete support of their coaches and teammates. It would be put up or shup up time for RM - and you can bet either team's GM would structure a deal to reflect that.

Take it from a fan who hates to watch JWalk in a Broncos uniform: move on.

100% true
get rid of him

[slyder]

Originally Posted by BossTycoon

Moss is worth at least a 2nd round pick! This guy still have potential.. If we give away Moss for anything less than a 2nd round pick, we are simply retarded. Some teams dont mind the attitude because they will try to keep him happy. It'll be better to see how he work with Kiffin..

Potential doesnt put groceries in the kitchen or jewelry on the finger (Super Bowl Ring). Randy has yet to live up to his potential here in oakland and he doesnt want to be here. If someones stupid enough to give a 1st round pick for him I'll be excited, Id take a high 3rd and a pick next year for him (ala TO to Philly) because sometimes there's addition by subtraction and this would be one of those situations. Give Walter or whoever the QB is someone opposite Porter/Curry who will go out there and have his back... not shove him under the bus. Trade him to Buffalo for McGehee .

[Southern Raider]

We are a young team, with a new coach and the worst record in football to build on. Moss is 32 years old. I agree we should try to get the best deal possibel for him, but trading him away for a 3rd wouldn't be "retarded" as you say. Clean house of all the turds IMO. New Engalnd has consistently won with trading away very talented malcontents. It would not be the end of our franchise to get rid of Moss for less than market value. Not by a long shot.

[slyder]

Originally Posted by Southern Raider

We are a young team, with a new coach and the worst record in football to build on. Moss is 32 years old. I agree we should try to get the best deal possibel for him, but trading him away for a 3rd wouldn't be "retarded" as you say. Clean house of all the turds IMO. New Engalnd has consistently won with trading away very talented malcontents. It would not be the end of our franchise to get rid of Moss for less than market value. Not by a long shot.

Pats "talented malcontents">Moss. Most of them were just looking to get paid, whats Moss' excuse?

[buckwild187]

I agree that Moss can still play but that doesn't mean a team is gonna give up a lot to get him. His value plummeted with his recent play and his cap #'s so right now I really don't even see him getting traded simply because Al still likes him and it doesn't matter how much the coaches and/or players might want him out if Al wants him here he stays bottom line.

[WNYRAIDER]

Originally Posted by slyder

Pats "talented malcontents">Moss. Most of them were just looking to get paid, whats Moss' excuse?

Yeah, and those excuses look more pathetic by the day.

I also agree with Southern Raider that it is better to get rid of the guy even if a less than Market value (whatever depth that has sunk to) than keep the guy here and have him poison another season and coaching staff.

We can't keep going through coaches and expect to win, and if this turd is kept here, there is really no question that he will poison another season and coaching staff. Once they are poisened they are done, no coming back even if the player or players is/are 'flushed'. We simply cannot afford to take that chance.

I absolutely knew the last HC and OC would not get the job done but we are starting fresh and this staff needs to stick.

[SF Mikey]

Originally Posted by raidertone

Agree......I'll take it a step further even......I'm sure we can find a team that would give us their first round pick for the guy.....**** even if it's a low first round pick, who cares......

Only time will tell what the Raider's will get for Moss if he is traded which seems more likely with him not talking calls from Kiffen. Moss's phat contract is another reason why it will be difficult to trade himl. Possibly if the Raiders can package him to some East Coast team where he'll be happy to go - he might renegotiate his contract as well.

I personally don't see anyone giving the Raiders anything more than a mid-high 3rd round pick for him though. If some team is foolish enough to offer up 1st or 2nd round pick for him - I will be the happiest camper around. My worst case scenario is that Al Davis will refuse to trade him because the Raiders can't find anyone remotely interested in this bum - much less equal value for the Randy of old. Then he'll be back as a cancer and/or major distraction again which would really blow!

[or24]

no way pats go for randy imo, theyre a class organization and wont want a malcontent like him, dont matter they have 2 #1's. GB might be desperate enough seeing as driver is the only consistent target they have. But i seriously doubt al will trade randy. al is really stubborn and he knows randy has PLENTY of football left in him.