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Old 11-30-2006, 01:29 PM
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Shell/Lombardi

Why did Art Shell go public with this?

Why did Lombardi back stab?

The buck stops at Al Davis. If Petrino had taken the offer, this franchise might or might not be turned around. But I'll give Lombardi this -- it was a prudent attempt.

What happens? Big Al hires Shell -- a good, solid man -- but WAY BEHIND THE TIMES when it comes to cutting edge offense. He hires Tom Walsh and probably has Lombardi eating his own arms and legs off out of frustration. Suddenly, Lombardi has no power, the Raiders are 2-9, last in offense -- and everything is all f***ed up.

Why? The media has been speculating for years how rough new coaches have it with Al Davis and nobody worthy will come here. Sean Payton turned us down, Jon Gruden wanted out, Whisenhunt said no and so did Petrino.

How to fix?

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Old 11-30-2006, 01:32 PM
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Hire a real GM that is not a yes man, case closed.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:39 PM
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Hire a GM that runs the team. That is allowed to hire coaches, consults with the head coach and has people to run the draft. Also the GM has to be a go between of sorts, trying to keep Al from meddling with the team. Get the rest of the league to see that we are just like the other teams when it comes to coaches, and that they are not just a puppet on a string. Then we might be able to hire a coach that the players respect and that can bring in a system that doesn't require leather helmets and real pig skin. And maybe even get a coordinator that doesn't moonlight as a short order cook.
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Hire a real GM that is not a yes man, case closed.
I highly doubt that any GM who isn't a "yes man" will want to come here!
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id just keep lombardi and work **** out
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This is the LAST thing that was needed. This will just make our team and organization look like a joke and seeing how it looks like it is true, I can't really say it isn't right now. Our own GM possibly phoning people to talk **** about our own coaching staff? If it IS Lombardi that beyond pathetic and sad.
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I highly doubt that any GM who isn't a "yes man" will want to come here!
Money talks, and it will take top dollar to get in a good one or anyone to want to work here.
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Why did Art Shell go public with this?

Why did Lombardi back stab?

The buck stops at Al Davis. If Petrino had taken the offer, this franchise might or might not be turned around. But I'll give Lombardi this -- it was a prudent attempt.

What happens? Big Al hires Shell -- a good, solid man -- but WAY BEHIND THE TIMES when it comes to cutting edge offense. He hires Tom Walsh and probably has Lombardi eating his own arms and legs off out of frustration. Suddenly, Lombardi has no power, the Raiders are 2-9, last in offense -- and everything is all f***ed up.

Why? The media has been speculating for years how rough new coaches have it with Al Davis and nobody worthy will come here. Sean Payton turned us down, Jon Gruden wanted out, Whisenhunt said no and so did Petrino.

How to fix?

Raider Nation help me.


Who said that Lombardi back stabbed anyone. Link?
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In Case You Hadn't Noticed....We Are A Joke....

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This is the LAST thing that was needed. This will just make our team and organization look like a joke and seeing how it looks like it is true, I can't really say it isn't right now. Our own GM possibly phoning people to talk **** about our own coaching staff? If it IS Lombardi that beyond pathetic and sad.

already for the most part. Laugh factors:-
#1. We hire a dinosaur HC
#2. We hire an OC that was running a bed and breakfast, was horrible as an OC last time out, and never won past the HS level
#3. All the good possible HCs walked away from us like Jon Gruden and Peyton
#4. The relic HC and OC got us to a whooping 2-9 with the most talented WR in the game
#5. The players already think Art Shell is a joke (was in an article last week)
#6. The league is worried about us (maybe the biggest joke of all)
#7. Our offense is last in the league
#8. We played two Monday football games (our biggest national TV games) and not only lost, but got shut out both times. Yeah, I said SHUT OUT
#9. We are slowly beginning to be called the "whiners" by fans of teams like San Diego. "Whiners!"
#10. Al Davis thought he was going to be called a genious again with the hiring of Shell and instead is being pronounced the class clown.

We are a pathetic joke at this time.
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already for the most part. Laugh factors:-
#1. We hire a dinosaur HC
#2. We hire an OC that was running a bed and breakfast, was horrible as an OC last time out, and never won past the HS level
#3. All the good possible HCs walked away from us like Jon Gruden and Peyton
#4. The relic HC and OC got us to a whooping 2-9 with the most talented WR in the game
#5. The players already think Art Shell is a joke (was in an article last week)
#6. The league is worried about us (maybe the biggest joke of all)
#7. Our offense is last in the league
#8. We played two Monday football games (our biggest national TV games) and not only lost, but got shut out both times. Yeah, I said SHUT OUT
#9. We are slowly beginning to be called the "whiners" by fans of teams like San Diego. "Whiners!"
#10. Al Davis thought he was going to be called a genious again with the hiring of Shell and instead is being pronounced the class clown.

We are a pathetic joke at this time.
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Who said that Lombardi back stabbed anyone. Link?
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