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Old 05-01-2006, 02:05 PM
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Possible Trade: Oakland/Houston

This is a made-up trade so not sure if it should go in rumor or not.


LT Barry Sims for DT Seth Payne

Why Oakland does this?
gets rid of Sims and gets Gallery into the LT spot. Fills a need with a Nose Tackle

Oakland OL
Gallery/Hulsey/Grove/Walker or ??/Slaughter or Walker
Treu/Garmon/Boothe/McQuistan/Morris as Backups

Oakland DL
Burgess/Payne/Sapp/Kelly
Brayton/Johnstone/Sands/Hawthorne as Backups
Hamiliton is a possible June 1st cut.


Why houston does this?
Gives them a stopgap at LT for Spencer to get adjusted to LT if he's gonna play there, or they can just plug him in RG

Houston OL
Sims/Chester/McKinney/Spencer/Winston
with Wand/Weary/Wiegert as backups/releases.

Houston DL
Babin/T.Johnson/R.Smith/Williams
Peek/DeLoach as backups
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Payne's contract and the implications with that???
Oh, and Payne leaving...why? When he can play within that 4-3 IMO.
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After last years robbing, I bet there is a team rule in place now that they are not allowed to trade with the Raiders, forevermore.
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Houston just drafted ERic Winston and hopes for him to be the franchise LT...why would they want a screw up like Simms?
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I find it hilarious that we kill and dog a guy like B.Sims, who has been a factor and still is a serviceable player on our team...yet, alot of us praise a guy like A.Brooks who has been horrid when it counts, and has a far worse image as a player and a pro...

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Serviceable?...wow, all he ever does is jump offsides, miss blocks and hold.

Did you see the Jets game?
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This is a made-up trade so not sure if it should go in rumor or not.


LT Barry Sims for DT Seth Payne

Why Oakland does this?
gets rid of Sims and gets Gallery into the LT spot. Fills a need with a Nose Tackle

Oakland OL
Gallery/Hulsey/Grove/Walker or ??/Slaughter or Walker
Treu/Garmon/Boothe/McQuistan/Morris as Backups

Oakland DL
Burgess/Payne/Sapp/Kelly
Brayton/Johnstone/Sands/Hawthorne as Backups
Hamiliton is a possible June 1st cut.


Why houston does this?
Gives them a stopgap at LT for Spencer to get adjusted to LT if he's gonna play there, or they can just plug him in RG

Houston OL
Sims/Chester/McKinney/Spencer/Winston
with Wand/Weary/Wiegert as backups/releases.

Houston DL
Babin/T.Johnson/R.Smith/Williams
Peek/DeLoach as backups

Hulsey? WTF?

When we had all the injury problems last year he wasn't even CONSIDERED as a starting Guard. Get real.
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:38 PM
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Serviceable?...wow, all he ever does is jump offsides, miss blocks and hold.

Did you see the Jets game?


And where do you get your figures from?

Barry Sims 2005.

16 games played, 16 games started.
Called for 3 penalties for 16 yards.
2 false starts and 1 holding call.
Allowed 12.25 sacks.

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...4913&Submit=Go
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If anything, Sims barely holds because he doesn't want to get called.

Barry Sims, holding penalties.

2005 - 1
2004 - 0
2003 - 2
2002 - 0
2001 - 0
2000 - 1
1999 - 1

I'd rather he had done sometimes and not allowed the sack.
1st and 20 is better in my opinion than 2nd and 18.
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It's already been posted that Sims is moving to LG and Gallery to LT. The left portion of our line is solid with the two previously mentioned and Grove. Our weakness is the right side. Hopefully we addressed that in the draft and free agency.
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Barry Simms has been a very solid player for us, but he took a major step backward last year. He needs to be moved to guard, or traded or released.
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That would be a decent trade for us. One problem I think Sims cap hit would be about 3 Million if we traded him.
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