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[coloradoraider]

Good find.

I agree that we can find a good LB in the 2nd or 3rd round, so unless Hawk is still on the board we might as well draft a different position in the 1st.

[ErieRaidahz]

Originally Posted by RaiderOfTheSith

I think Fargas, under Shell/Walsh/with Slater line, will do well. I think he catchin negative stuff that originated with "Callahans non-running WC" and "Norv's O genius." Most back ups get around 40-50 attempts per year.

2003 - under Callahan - best year utilized, 40 attempt/203 yards, 5.1 average
Zack - 48 attempt/148 yards, 3.0 average
Garner - 120 attempts, 553 yards, 4.6 average

Our O line was then gutted (lost Robbins, Collins, Kennedy) AND no real FB
2004 - under Norv - 35 attempts/126 yards, 3.6 average (Hires Amos)
2005 - under Norv - 5 attempts/28 yards, 5.6 average (Hires LJ)

He averages 5.6 yards receiving. 2003 - 19.7 yards average on kick off returns, not utilized there under Norv.

21 ST tackles. In all touches only fumbled 1 time.

I say give him a real shot under Shell/Walsh. Its not like a 3rd or 4th rounder is going to come in and perform better than Fargas as a COP back (if you still plan on LJ being the main guy).

I don't think RB (as opposed to FB) is a main concern. Fix/coach up the OL and get FB and all of the RBs will do well. I think Fargas can be our Willie Parker. Attention should be focus on G, LBs, DL.

Good post, I agree with all of it. Rep for you. Give Fargas an actual chance, his stats don't look bad when he has a line and is given some carries. Hes got talent. We need the change of pace back.

[ErieRaidahz]

Originally Posted by markel1

Just a litlle info i'll like to add to the discussion. Fargas was drafted in 2003.
It went like this: 2003 draft
1A. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, California
1B. Tyler Brayton, DE, Colorado
2. Teyo Johnson, TE, Stanford
3A. Sam Williams, DE, Fresno State
3B. Justin Fargas, RB, USC
4. Shurron Pierson, LB, South Florida
5. Doug Gabriel, WR, Central Florida
6. Dustin Rykert, T, BYU
7A. Sideeq Shabazz, S, New Mexico State
7B. Ryan Hoag, WR Gustavus Adolphus
2004
1. Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
2. Jake Grove, C, Virginia Tech
3. Stuart Schweigert, S, Purdue
4. Carlos Francis, WR, Texas Tech
5. Johnnie Morant, WR, Syracuse
6A. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware
6B. Cody Spencer, LB, North Texas
7A. Courtney Anderson, TE, San Jose State
7B. Andre Sommersell, LB, Colorado State

2005
1. Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraska
2. Stanford Routt, CB, Houston
3a. Andrew Walter, QB, Arizona State
3b. Kirk Morrison, LB, San Diego State
6a. Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, Wisconsin
6b. Ryan Riddle, LB, California
6c. Pete McMahon, OT, Iowa
2006

Go Raiders!!!

thanks for the info, out of all those picks, I think the ones that were the best for their value, have been Morrison and Gabriel. They were later round picks who have turned out good. I hope I can add Courtney Anderson to the list after his breakout year this year.

[AJHawk2006]

Originally Posted by raiders2200

MAURICE DREW FROM UCLA WOULD BE A PERFECT FIT AT THE #2 SPOT I THINK.

Not Really...he probably wont make it as a RB. He's supposed to be a kick returner which we dont really need at all.

I think they should look into free agency...is Maurice Morris and jonathan Wells still available?

[ohraider21]

I think fargas could help, but he is always hurt. He is extremely fast and I think we are banking on him to be healthy. If not, drew from ucla might be a steal because he is a change of pace back and he could help with special teams. It would be stupid to draft a runningback in the first two rounds because we don't need a starter.

[Dark Knight01]

Originally Posted by Snoop750

We need another Rb!!!!! Give J.Fargas some competition. I dont care if that guy is quick or what not. When was the last time he contributed in a real game time scenario???

C'mon Oakland dont leave that unaddressed....The draft and also the second FA Period, are both Great spots to address a change of pace back need.

C'mon Oakland.

we need to draft Joseph Addai or Maurice Drew in round 3....we need a backup change of pace RB who will not get nicked up..

[trueraiderfan17]

good to know that might be a posibility. But does it say who we are interested in for a first round if we do not take a rb or a lb?

[Mr.Murder]

The film don't lie, the man belongs nowhere on the field until he learns how to pass block. The QB gets hit when Fargas is in. He can't keep people out of a passer's face.

[BossTycoon]

Originally Posted by Steerpike

Has Delores Can't? has Grant Irons? has Derek Gibson?

If he's a favourite of Al's then he's teflon when it comes to getting cut....

he FUMBLED a lot......