ESPN Insider

[trojan56]

Originally Posted by jimi18

Please provide a link when posting from other sites!

Besides that if its from ESPN Insider its a copy right thing and you cannot post it.

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/2006-archives/67043-espn-insider.html

Originally Posted by BK

Please do not post ESPN Insider info on this board... That site is contains copywritten information and is only intended for the individual that paid for the content....

[ra8der]

Far(Out OF)Gas is not that fast and when he gets hit by DB's he flies backwards and lands on his arse he is by far the weakest runner ive ever seen. I think Chris Carr would be a better running back then this sorry excuse for a back. And Omar Easy made Fargas look like a Chump.

[TheBATTMAN]

Technically... it is free information... just funny that people think they are getting it for cost at their ESPN insider pass

http://profootballweekly.com/PFW/The...ispers2102.htm

[RaiderOfTheSith]

Originally Posted by raider75

nothing but injuries and fumbles....enough said.......

I think Fargas, under Shell/Walsh/with Slater line, will do well. I think he catchin negative stuff that originated with "Callahans non-running WC" and "Norv's O genius." Most back ups get around 40-50 attempts per year.

2003 - under Callahan - best year utilized, 40 attempt/203 yards, 5.1 average
Zack - 48 attempt/148 yards, 3.0 average
Garner - 120 attempts, 553 yards, 4.6 average

Our O line was then gutted (lost Robbins, Collins, Kennedy) AND no real FB
2004 - under Norv - 35 attempts/126 yards, 3.6 average (Hires Amos)
2005 - under Norv - 5 attempts/28 yards, 5.6 average (Hires LJ)

He averages 5.6 yards receiving. 2003 - 19.7 yards average on kick off returns, not utilized there under Norv.

21 ST tackles. In all touches only fumbled 1 time.

I say give him a real shot under Shell/Walsh. Its not like a 3rd or 4th rounder is going to come in and perform better than Fargas as a COP back (if you still plan on LJ being the main guy).

I don't think RB (as opposed to FB) is a main concern. Fix/coach up the OL and get FB and all of the RBs will do well. I think Fargas can be our Willie Parker. Attention should be focus on G, LBs, DL.

[Snoop750]

Originally Posted by raider75

nothing but injuries and fumbles....enough said.......

Good Post!!!

Add headaches, for coaches & fans, and you're right on the money.
No coaches we've had have ever been turned on to that guy, including chucky himself. Just wasting a roster spot....another deadweight issue.

**Oakland needs to address this issue in the draft. Between kc & den, Oakland needs two QUALITY backs, that can & will perform.

[trojan56]

Originally Posted by TheBATTMAN

Technically... it is free information... just funny that people think they are getting it for cost at their ESPN insider pass

http://profootballweekly.com/PFW/The...ispers2102.htm

Buddy dont tell me that tell it to BK. I'm just letting you all know.

[Locdog]

and some raider fans and media said that the raiders dont have a plan!!!!
simple to see even if you dont believe in the rumors that the raiders have been trying to look at all the possiblilitys and make the best choses. they have too many players thay could pick at the the seven spot for once i would like them to trade down if the baltimore trade could true. i still think its easyer to move up rather than down.

[markel1]

Originally Posted by shaolin36

I think drew is good back, but if we give fargas some big holes he has the speed to take it all the way every time. the only faster running back i can think of is michael bennett

Fellas in my opinion this guy hasn't been given a legit chance to play with a disciplined and sharp line. He was a projected first rounder before he got injured in college. Given our finantial situation I would understand why they keep him around to see what he really has. Defense will be a priority(o-line if whe can get lucky)on this draft. Hopefully we'll have a good one this year...Go Raiders!

[UK Raider]

I think Drew would be available in the third i think would be a good pick then

[markel1]

Originally Posted by RaiderOfTheSith

I think Fargas, under Shell/Walsh/with Slater line, will do well. I think he catchin negative stuff that originated with "Callahans non-running WC" and "Norv's O genius." Most back ups get around 40-50 attempts per year.

2003 - under Callahan - best year utilized, 40 attempt/203 yards, 5.1 average
Zack - 48 attempt/148 yards, 3.0 average
Garner - 120 attempts, 553 yards, 4.6 average

Our O line was then gutted (lost Robbins, Collins, Kennedy) AND no real FB
2004 - under Norv - 35 attempts/126 yards, 3.6 average (Hires Amos)
2005 - under Norv - 5 attempts/28 yards, 5.6 average (Hires LJ)

He averages 5.6 yards receiving. 2003 - 19.7 yards average on kick off returns, not utilized there under Norv.

21 ST tackles. In all touches only fumbled 1 time.

I say give him a real shot under Shell/Walsh. Its not like a 3rd or 4th rounder is going to come in and perform better than Fargas as a COP back (if you still plan on LJ being the main guy).

I don't think RB (as opposed to FB) is a main concern. Fix/coach up the OL and get FB and all of the RBs will do well. I think Fargas can be our Willie Parker. Attention should be focus on G, LBs, DL.

Great point bro!

[RighteousRayda]

Please provide a link when posting from other sites!

I know where you are coming from Mod but this is from the ESPN Insider. Most of the readers here will not be able to view the contents of this link. He did you a favor by cutting out the Raider portion of the article and posting it here for all to read.

[TRS keef]

My grandmother has informed me that Al called her to come in for a workout, apparently she has been chosen to compete with Fargas for the backup spot. So expect to see Fargas solely on special teams.

[ice4444]

A.J. Hawks versatility wasn't evident when he was on the sidelines for a quarter of the obviuos passing downs for OSU. That's worrisome.

[WNYRAIDER]

Originally Posted by TRS keef

My grandmother has informed me that Al called her to come in for a workout, apparently she has been chosen to compete with Fargas for the backup spot. So expect to see Fargas solely on special teams.

If granny lands the job, i would hold out for a handsome raise in the grass cutting fee.

[markel1]

Just a litlle info i'll like to add to the discussion. Fargas was drafted in 2003.
It went like this: 2003 draft
1A. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, California
1B. Tyler Brayton, DE, Colorado
2. Teyo Johnson, TE, Stanford
3A. Sam Williams, DE, Fresno State
3B. Justin Fargas, RB, USC
4. Shurron Pierson, LB, South Florida
5. Doug Gabriel, WR, Central Florida
6. Dustin Rykert, T, BYU
7A. Sideeq Shabazz, S, New Mexico State
7B. Ryan Hoag, WR Gustavus Adolphus
2004
1. Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
2. Jake Grove, C, Virginia Tech
3. Stuart Schweigert, S, Purdue
4. Carlos Francis, WR, Texas Tech
5. Johnnie Morant, WR, Syracuse
6A. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware
6B. Cody Spencer, LB, North Texas
7A. Courtney Anderson, TE, San Jose State
7B. Andre Sommersell, LB, Colorado State

2005
1. Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraska
2. Stanford Routt, CB, Houston
3a. Andrew Walter, QB, Arizona State
3b. Kirk Morrison, LB, San Diego State
6a. Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, Wisconsin
6b. Ryan Riddle, LB, California
6c. Pete McMahon, OT, Iowa
2006

Go Raiders!!!