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psly2124 · #1 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:47 AM

Norv will be fired Tuesday Wednesday the latest. And he will be interviewing Fassell and Hill later in the week most likely Thursday and Friday. The only good news is that Norv is G-O-N-E. I really don't want either one of these coaches, in my opinion both are very overrated. But as much Fassell bashing as I do, he would be the better choice of the two.

HorrorSCope · #2 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:50 AM

Pat Hill overrated? Where was Fresno State before he got there? I didn't even know they existed; now they are a well-known school in college football. He was the man that put them on the map.

ND Raider · #3 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:53 AM

Well Hellz Bellz...

Juan00 · #4 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:53 AM

The only problem I have with Pat Hill is that he last his last three games of the year after hanging with USC. Also, he's not from a major conference or football power, so he hasn't had to match wits with some of the top notch coaches in college. I'm just not sure that he's ready for the big time.

**WVRaiderNation** · #5 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:55 AM

Fassell, I didnt think he could be interviewed til the end of the season cuz the giants are still in it. I could be wrong though.

psly2124 · #6 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HorrorSCope

Pat Hill overrated? Where was Fresno State before he got there? I didn't even know they existed; now they are a well-known school in college football. He was the man that put them on the map.

Fresno State always had an offense. Do you remember Stephen Baker "the touchdown maker"? He played for the Giants late 80's early 90's. Where is Hill's D. I'm also not overly impressed with him. I know his D improved this year but I don't want a Walrus on the sidelines.

HorrorSCope · #7 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan00

The only problem I have with Pat Hill is that he last his last three games of the year after hanging with USC. Also, he's not from a major conference or football power, so he hasn't had to match wits with some of the top notch coaches in college. I'm just not sure that he's ready for the big time.

Maybe not ready I dunno that is why he gets interviewed, got to put some trust somewhere. But I'm not judging Pat Hill at all with the last three games of this season. He put the entire program on the map. Great coaches on both levels have had slides like Hill just had. All we know is he's preparing for the S&B job.

**Gmac** · #8 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:58 AM

where does this info come from?

HorrorSCope · #9 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by psly2124

I don't want a Walrus on the sidelines.

I'm not saying I'm championing him at all, just trying to give him some credit where I feel it's due. But I'll take a winning Walrus on the sidelines any day of the week or any other zoo animal of your choice. At least I feel comfortable he won't be intimidated at a black jack table and hold his own and not flee!

Lamma · #10 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 02:05 AM

Not Fassel. I don't know enough about Hill to give any insight so I'll keep my mouth shut. But the only way this organization could look any dumber is if they hire Jim Fassel: "Hey the last reject we got from the New York Giants was a total disaster and completely failed. Now instead of getting their reject quarterback, we have a chance to get the reject head coach who coached said quarterback! Come on Al, pull the trigger! It'll be a great get!"

Fassel would be a disaster. The only comforting thing about him is that I wouldn't have to get my hopes up again. The butterflies and drymouth that I used to get before Raider games would be gone because I'd already be 90% sure of the outcome.

It's like being a big fat guy who never leaves the house and gets by on assistance from the government. It's a boring, pathetic, predictable, and sad life. The upside is that there's no terrible surprises. You're heading for early death and you know it. So you just swallow another mallomar and change back to channel 9 to see if Springer's come back from commercial break.

Same thing if Fassel becomes the Raider coach. No big anticipation. The losses will roll over me like comforting rolls of cellulite that I'm so used to I don't even notice them anymore. Once in a while, like the house-bound lard bucket who gets out for an occasional walk, the Raiders will win a game. And like the fatty who thinks he'll walk everyday from now on, his resolve melting into several quartes of store brand vanilla ice cream that very night, the Raiders will then come out and lose the very next week.

Other fans and sportswriters will continue to use us the butt of jokes and occasionally say something really mean, just like when the fat guy is on his once every other month walk, the neighborhood kids will yell insults and throw their empty Bomb-Pop wrappers at him. But like the fat guy, whose become so used to humiliation and isolation that it doesn't really affect him, we as fans will be comfortably acquainted with being the NFL's new creepy fat guy.

psly2124 · #11 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HorrorSCope

I'm not saying I'm championing him at all, just trying to give him some credit where I feel it's due. But I'll take a winning Walrus on the sidelines any day of the week or any other zoo animal of your choice. At least I feel comfortable he won't be intimidated at a black jack table and hold his own and not flee!

I hear ya, i'm the same way if a blind, deaf, mute who never watched a football game brought us a ring i'm for it. But I have a gut feeling Fassell will be the guy. I hate him, but if can turn this thing around...hire him. I just feel that hiring Norv two years ago set us back 5 years. I hated that move but at least Fassell won some games.

**THRO-slc** · #12 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 02:08 AM

'It's Pat!'
Kinda androgynous, I dunno.

psly2124 · #13 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamma

Not Fassel. I don't know enough about Hill to give any insight so I'll keep my mouth shut. But the only way this organization could look any dumber is if they hire Jim Fassel: "Hey the last reject we got from the New York Giants was a total disaster and completely failed. Now instead of getting their reject quarterback, we have a chance to get the reject head coach who coached said quarterback! Come on Al, pull the trigger! It'll be a great get!"

Fassel would be a disaster. The only comforting thing about him is that I wouldn't have to get my hopes up again. The butterflies and drymouth that I used to get before Raider games would be gone because I'd already be 90% sure of the outcome.

It's like being a big fat guy who never leaves the house and gets by on assistance from the government. It's a boring, pathetic, predictable, and sad life. The upside is that there's no terrible surprises. You're heading for early death and you know it. So you just swallow another mallomar and change back to channel 9 to see if Springer's come back from commercial break.

Same thing if Fassel becomes the Raider coach. No big anticipation. The losses will roll over me like comforting rolls of cellulite that I'm so used to I don't even notice them anymore. Once in a while, like the house-bound lard bucket who gets out for an occasional walk, the Raiders will win a game. And like the fatty who thinks he'll walk everyday from now on, his resolve melting into several quartes of store brand vanilla ice cream that very night, the Raiders will then come out and lose the very next week.

Other fans and sportswriters will continue to use us the butt of jokes and occasionally say something really mean, just like when the fat guy is on his once every other month walk, the neighborhood kids will yell insults and throw their empty Bomb-Pop wrappers at him. But like the fat guy, whose become so used to humiliation and isolation that it doesn't really affect him, we as fans will be comfortably acquainted with being the NFL's new creepy fat guy.

Lamma...are you speaking from personal experiences? I'm not a Fassell fan either, don't get me wrong. I'm from Jersey and I hated the Giants and used to laugh at all my friends that were Giant fans...that Fassell was there coach. And bash him every game and every playcall. I don't want him, but he is better then Norv. Which is not saying much. I just want a young gung-ho coach who will bleed silver and black. A young coach that was a fan from the time of birth that his one goal is to lead the Raiders to the Super Bowl. That's the coach I want, not retread old heads, but that is what we will be left with.

Lamma · #14 (**permalink**) 01-04-2006, 02:18 AM

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Lamma...are you speaking from personal experiences?

No, just observation. After the last three years, it's not hard for the imagination to call up sad and tragic analogies and metaphors in regards to the Raiders.

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I don't want him, but he is better then Norv. Which is not saying much.

That's very, very right. It wouldn't take much to be better than Norv.

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I just want a young gung-ho coach who will bleed silver and black. A young coach that was a fan from the time of birth that his one goal is to lead the Raiders to the Super Bowl. That's the coach I want, not retread old heads, but that is what we will be left with.

Well, while it's probably impossible to find a guy to coach who's been a Raider fan all his life, I do agree 100% with the rest of what you said. We need a younger guy who's going to kick some ass and who can be here for 10 years or so. A coach who even when things are going bad, still inspires confidence-so that we know that things will get better, it's just going to take some time.