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Old 11-01-2004, 11:13 PM
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Poor Draft History

Here's some examples of poor drafting over the last few years. We could
have used some of these players now.

2004
-We forfeited our 2nd round draft pick for Sam Williams ( an absolute waste)
-We could have selected G Chris Snee.

2003
- We drafted Nnamdi Asomugha.
- We could have had WR Anquin Boldin

-We drafted Justin Fargas
-We could have had Dominick Davis, Onterrio Smith, or Lee Snuggs

2002
- We drafted P Buchannan
- We could have drafted Ed Reed

2001
-We drated D Gibson
-We could have had Todd Heap

-We drafted D Grant
-We could have had Edgerton Hartwell



Al Davis is losing it, he's consistantly drafted poorly over the years making us depend on free agency.

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Old 11-02-2004, 12:15 AM
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look you guys bitch at every pick our drafts have been average not awful, we have got a lot of good late round talent in guys like Rod Coleman, Doug Gabriel, Ronald Curry, Courtney Anderson. Most rated buchanan as a top 10 pick, he is ****ed a total terrell buckley. Guys like Doug Jolley are solid. Yeah we ****ed up a few, but so has most teams, look at the eagles, they picked the worst WR's you have ever seen in the draft, but it hasn't stop their team from being one of the best.
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Here's some examples of poor drafting over the last few years. We could
have used some of these players now.

2004
-We forfeited our 2nd round draft pick for Sam Williams ( an absolute waste)
-We could have selected G Chris Snee.

2003
- We drafted Nnamdi Asomugha.
- We could have had WR Anquin Boldin

-We drafted Justin Fargas
-We could have had Dominick Davis, Onterrio Smith, or Lee Snuggs

2002
- We drafted P Buchannan
- We could have drafted Ed Reed

2001
-We drated D Gibson
-We could have had Todd Heap

-We drafted D Grant
-We could have had Edgerton Hartwell



Al Davis is losing it, he's consistantly drafted poorly over the years making us depend on free agency.


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and we coulda and we shoulda blah blah blah. Although I do have to say that the Teyo Johnson, Lankston Walker, nnamdi, Brayton draft looks shi**ty
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It's not like we're drafting horrible, I just think our coaching if these players suck. No one would've guessed that Buchanon would get burned alot, or DeLawerence Grant would suck, or that Gibson would be where he is today. I thought Grant would be awesome, he tore up Notre Dames offense in the Feista Bowl. And as for Boldin, I thought he was a top 10 pick after his performance in the Sugar Bowl and I think we should've gotten him and Bailey/Hamlin instead of Brayton and Asomugha.
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I think coaching makes the difference. More importantly, an offensive and defensive system and philosophy makes the difference. This is why a rookie QB like Roethlisberger can step in in Pitt and look like he's been there all his life. Its why Steve Bono and Elvis Grbac can step in and both look like decent QBs (ask the qweefs if they are decent ). This is also why you can stick a WR in at CB and he have more interceptions than our franchise corner.

We need a system on both sides of the ball, then we can draft players that fit into that system. We drafted Brayton to play DE, now we switched systems and he's at OLB?

Ron Wolf said one time that he could eliminate a lot of the players in the draft because they simply did not fit into their system. That's what we need. Only then will our drafts produce the caliber of player we all expect...
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:28 AM
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I don't think it's so much of Oakland drafting poorly. All draft picks are based on potential. It's rather easy to look back a few years ago and see what draft picks have developed faster than others. Who knew Gibson would be a bust? I watched him throughout his college career and thought he would be a solid NFL player.
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:33 AM
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I agree, our coaches devolping our players has been awful the past couple of years.
Atleast this coaching staff I feel puts devopling players as a higher priority and I think they have done a better job than the past. Gallery, Grove are rookies and there starting.
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We have continuously been drafting players much higher than they have been projected. Not that projections mean **** but there have been at least in the last few years players who have turned out much better than our picks. At this point at least. Both Brayton and Ashowugohaa(yes i spelled it wrong) were nowhere near 1st round projections. We could have gotten them later in the draft. Walker was drafted too high. Why use a 2nd rounder on Teyo when we just used one on Jolley and had Roland Williams. What good are two 2nd round TE's when you don't know how to use them. Who knew Buchanon would suck. Him and Jammer were the two top rated CB's coming out. Gibson another bust. **** happens. But when we continualy reach for players like we have been we set ourselves up for disaster. Someone has mentioned picks like Curry and Gabriel. Sure nice players but what have they done. When they have 80 catches talk to me. Until then they're no better than the rest of the #2 and #3 WR's in the league. N. Harris is another bust at this point. He was supposed to be great. He is not even a top 15 LB right now. We have a ton of ?????? on this team right now. If we don't start making some good decisions soon like whether to reload or to rebuild we may be unhappy fans for quite some time.
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Why Oakland drafted Teyo when they just drafted Jolley the year before? That's a damn good question! I thought that was a wasted pick but Callahan explianed that they were going to use more of a two TE formation last year. Yeah, that worked out well!

Nnamdi and Brayton were essentially second round picks where they were drafted. Oakland was coming off a Super Bowl season and selected a project player ( Nnamdi ) and a Michael McCrary hustle player in Brayton.

Yes, Curry and Gabriel are decent receivers but they continue to improve. That's more than what can be said for Jerry Porter.

Oakland has a ton of talent but they never seem to develop under our coaching staffs.
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