insider on another forum seems to be right again

[amikhail4]

He stated that Atlanta Falcons were the frontrunners for a trade down not the Bucs and that the lions were depsperate because all the deals are going to the raiders and not them. He says that Calvin Johnson is still a lock for a trade bait and heres what pft says.


http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
LIONS HAVEN'T HEARD FROM FALCONS . . . YET

Despite reports that Falcons owner Arthur Blank has instructed G.M. Rick McKay to move up from the No. 8 overall spot in the draft to get receiver Calvin Johnson, we're told that the team that holds the No. 2 overall selection has yet to hear from the Falcons.

Though the Lions fully expect to be contacted by the Falcons, could it be that the Falcons have opted to go straight to the top of the draft, and will attempt to strike a deal with the Raiders?

There's zero indication that the Falcons are talking to the Raiders, who have been remarkably tight-lipped about their plans. But if McKay's orders are to get Johnson, and if there's an open question as to whether the Raiders will draft him, the best way to keep the boss happy (other than bringing him a daily calzone from Paisano's) would be to get all the way to No. 1.

Under the trade value chart developed by Jimmy Johnson in the 1990s, the Falcons would have to come up with 1,600 points in addition to the 1,400 points that apply to the No. 8 pick. The rest of the team's selections in the 2007 draft barely equate to 1,400 points; thus, the Falcons would also need to include 200 points from the 2008 draft.

The 2008 second-rounder that they received from the Texans might be the gap-bridger in this regard.

Then again, Raiders owner Al Davis might decide to put his thumb on the scale, and justifiably so. If running back Ricky Williams was worth the Saints' entire 1999 draft and a first-rounder the following year, then Johnson is worth the same, if not more.

Stay tuned on this one. Because the owner reportedly wants to make it happen, McKay and coach Bobby Petrino are in a no-lose situation. If the deal backfires and the Falcons stink for the next five years (or more) because they gave up so many draft picks, both McKay and Petrino will be able to cover their butts by pointing to Mr. Blank's decision to mortgage the future by going after a guy who could become the post-Vick face of the franchise.

[RaiderInNY]

If running back Ricky Williams was worth the Saints' entire 1999 draft and a first-rounder the following year, then Johnson is worth the same, if not more.

[cutchind]

Wow! All the Falcon's picks this year and their first next year would be awesome!

I so hope this is legit.

[CoRaidersFan]

Originally Posted by amikhail4

He stated that Atlanta Falcons were the frontrunners for a trade down not the Bucs and that the lions were depsperate because all the deals are going to the raiders and not them. He says that Calvin Johnson is still a lock for a trade bait and heres what pft says.


http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
LIONS HAVEN'T HEARD FROM FALCONS . . . YET

Despite reports that Falcons owner Arthur Blank has instructed G.M. Rick McKay to move up from the No. 8 overall spot in the draft to get receiver Calvin Johnson, we're told that the team that holds the No. 2 overall selection has yet to hear from the Falcons.

Though the Lions fully expect to be contacted by the Falcons, could it be that the Falcons have opted to go straight to the top of the draft, and will attempt to strike a deal with the Raiders?

There's zero indication that the Falcons are talking to the Raiders, who have been remarkably tight-lipped about their plans. But if McKay's orders are to get Johnson, and if there's an open question as to whether the Raiders will draft him, the best way to keep the boss happy (other than bringing him a daily calzone from Paisano's) would be to get all the way to No. 1.

Under the trade value chart developed by Jimmy Johnson in the 1990s, the Falcons would have to come up with 1,600 points in addition to the 1,400 points that apply to the No. 8 pick. The rest of the team's selections in the 2007 draft barely equate to 1,400 points; thus, the Falcons would also need to include 200 points from the 2008 draft.

The 2008 second-rounder that they received from the Texans might be the gap-bridger in this regard.

Then again, Raiders owner Al Davis might decide to put his thumb on the scale, and justifiably so. If running back Ricky Williams was worth the Saints' entire 1999 draft and a first-rounder the following year, then Johnson is worth the same, if not more.

Stay tuned on this one. Because the owner reportedly wants to make it happen, McKay and coach Bobby Petrino are in a no-lose situation. If the deal backfires and the Falcons stink for the next five years (or more) because they gave up so many draft picks, both McKay and Petrino will be able to cover their butts by pointing to Mr. Blank's decision to mortgage the future by going after a guy who could become the post-Vick face of the franchise.

Jimmy Johnson made up that points scale? Personally I don't like the idea of going all the way back to #8, but if it comes with a lot of pics...hmmmm.

[OTF]

I would love to have all of the Falcons picks plus their 1st next year but I wouldn't want to drop to #8...

#8, #39, #44, #75, #109, #121, #149, #185 & a 1st in 2008

sure is a lot...

That means we would have:

#8, #33, #39, #44, #65, #75, #99, #100, #109, #121, #138, #149, #165, #175, #185, #211 & #254

Plus an extra 1st in 2008

[amikhail4]

Originally Posted by CoRaidersFan

Jimmy Johnson made up that points scale? Personally I don't like the idea of going all the way back to #8, but if it comes with a lot of pics...hmmmm.

what the insider is saying that we will most likely move back up to get quinn or if we cant we will stay and pick Okoye or levi brown . his name is msrtbass 2000 by the way at scout.com

[LatinoRaider]

Trading down to 8 straight up would not be wise IMO. Now if the Raiders traded down to 8, then traded back up to 2 with the extra picks they get from Atlanta, that would be a nice scenario.

Saturday cannot get here fast enough.

[DJ_Maiko]

Yea, I've been thinking about how much everyone wants CJ- & rightfully so! Raiders could draft him & hold him as ransom...then again, it's b.s. time in the NFL so this all might be a ruse 'cuz lotsa folks might be secretly drooling over JRuss. /shrug

[THE CHOSEN ONE]

trust me everyone wants j russ, but they cant have him.

[gdamac]

Originally Posted by CoRaidersFan

Jimmy Johnson made up that points scale? Personally I don't like the idea of going all the way back to #8, but if it comes with a lot of pics...hmmmm.

I am with you, however with all those picks and DET wanting out of number two we could probably move back up and still make out like bandits.

[Oghenny99]

this would be amazing! I would be down 100% if this happened. We need players guys... we have a ton of holes and we need the competition. Kiff is going to get us the best draft class yet. Lets not forget he knows ALOT about these college prospects from his days in USC.

[T_rentsthename]

I would definitly trade the first pick for all thiers this year plus their first next year. I mean in reality all it would take is one Vick injury for us to get the first pick again

[IronRaider]

That would fill A LOT of holes. Could do for Oakland, what the Herschel Walker deal did for Dallas.

[AirRaiders]

If we make that trade we will trade right out of getting Russell, Quinn, C.J. or Peterson. This trade would make no sense. We would be better suited t