Trade Down!

[raiderfost]

If the rumors are true about tampa offering us all there first day picks to move down to 4 then we would have to be stupid to not do it! We could really use the picks and stiill get b.q. or j.r. at the 4th.

[Raiderz_00]

Originally Posted by raiderfost

If the rumors are true about tampa offering us all there first day picks to move down to 4 then we would have to be stupid to not do it! We could really use the picks and stiill get b.q. or j.r. at the 4th.

Where are these rumors from? Space? You got a link bro or at least the Radio station, TV channel you heard this on?

[raiderfost]

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have offered four first-day draft choices to the Raiders to move up from the fourth overall pick to the first to draft Calvin Johnson, Yahoo sports is reporting.

The trade would involve Tampa Bay's first-, second-, and third-round picks, plus the second-round pick they acquired in a trade with the Colts. Although that trade would, according to the chart teams use to assess draft picks, be a better deal for Tampa Bay than for Oakland, I think the Raiders would be crazy to turn that deal down. Oakland needs help everywhere on offense, and adding four first-day rookies would provide that help more than the No. 1 overall pick would.

Yahoo quotes an unnamed league source saying, "I definitely get the feeling that's where the Bucs are going," but on that quote, I agree with Pro Football Talk

[or24]

The rumors have been posted before. But imo JR and BQ are both gone by 4. Fine with me though, as I want AD and those extra picks would be nice as well.

[16 to 88]

Can't imagine J.R. or B.Q. being there at #4.

[d-mac37]

Originally Posted by 16 to 88

Can't imagine J.R. or B.Q. being there at #4.

So AP it is

[ApOcAlYpSe]

Originally Posted by 16 to 88

Can't imagine J.R. or B.Q. being there at #4.

Why? There is a pretty simple scenario where both of them could be there. TB takes Johnson at 1, Detroit takes Thomas at 2, Cleveland takes Peterson at 3. All three of those matches are certainly possible...

[MT/Cali Raider]

i don't think those rumors are still valid, why would tampa trade w/ us for CJ when they can trade w/ detroit and have CJ fall to them for less cost. Oakland isn't gonna pick CJ, i'm sorry its just not believable. Al Davis is amoung the most deceptive owners in the sports biz but the dude isn't stupid!

[SF Mikey]

Originally Posted by MT/Cali Raider

i don't think those rumors are still valid, why would tampa trade w/ us for CJ when they can trade w/ detroit and have CJ fall to them for less cost. Oakland isn't gonna pick CJ, i'm sorry its just not believable. Al Davis is amoung the most deceptive owners in the sports biz but the dude isn't stupid!

That's the problem with trading down - nobody is going to give up the farm to move up three spots for Calvin Johnson. Maybe for a potential franchise QB ala Eli Manning in 2004 but not for a WR no matter how good. Especially when the Raiders are most likely to take a QB at the #1 slot anyway.

I would love the Raiders to take Johnson then consider offers when TB is on the board - that way the Raiders will know who is / isn't available at those slots. Also ATL might give up a lot to trade up for CJ - Vick needs some weapons at WR and CJ is a local guy who will help generate quite a buzz.

That being said, I am not getting my hopes up since I am fairly certain that JaMarcus will be the Raiders pick. My only sliver of hope is that maybe won't be patient enough to wait for a Russell to develop since he is still a little raw.

[16 to 88]

Originally Posted by ApOcAlYpSe

Why? There is a pretty simple scenario where both of them could be there. TB takes Johnson at 1, Detroit takes Thomas at 2, Cleveland takes Peterson at 3. All three of those matches are certainly possible...

Your right that could happen and It would be great if it did.

I just don't see it playing out that way.

[Raider in the CO]

KFFL is reporting that the Raiders are torn on who to draft (not a shock), however, the scenario & opinions I found interesting:

Raiders | Team split on who to take in NFL Draft?
Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:45:37 -0700

Phil Barber, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports there is speculation the Oakland Raiders are torn on who to select with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft. The scouting department reportedly likes Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson, head coach Lane Kiffin and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp like Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn and team owner Al Davis wants Louisiana State QB JaMarcus Russell.

[Raider in the CO]

More fuel to the fire:

Raiders | Team reaches out to C. Johnson's agent
Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:00:57 -0700

ESPNews reports the Oakland Raiders have reached out to Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson's agent to talk general numbers on a potential contract. The Raiders currently hold the No. 1 overall selection in the 2007 NFL Draft.

Raiders | Team reaches out to Russell's agent
Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:00:34 -0700

ESPNews reports the Oakland Raiders have reached out to Louisiana State QB JaMarcus Russell's agent to talk general numbers on a potential contract. The Raiders currently hold the No. 1 overall selection in the 2007 NFL Draft.

Raiders | Team reaches out to Quinn's agent
Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:00:17 -0700

ESPNews reports the Oakland Raiders have reached out to Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn's agent to talk general numbers on a potential contract. The Raiders currently hold the No. 1 overall selection in the 2007 NFL Draft.


********I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HOFBoundBrown]

Is there a limit on the number of draft picks a team can have in a year? That trade with Tampa would give us 14.

[stlknows]

I agree that either Quinn or Russell will be there. DET is going defense, so TB takes CJ, DET takes D, CLE takes AD, Thomas, JR or BQ. one of them will be there. I say we let CLE have their pick of QBs, they're more likely to screw it up anyway.