Lane Kiffin will not start JaMarcus Russell for at least a few weeks because....

[MT Raider]

I could not disagree more. When will he have a good team around him 2-3 years? How about putting him in and making the team better. Remember how bad the Titans were last year, 2-6 when they put VY in. Kiffin is lost

[trojan56]

Originally Posted by East Coast Ang

Cant say I blame him. You dont want another Daivd Carr or Joey Harrington

or Akili Smith

Originally Posted by SCaliRDRFN

when will that be? I don't think our oline will look good this season. Play him in the second half next weekend.

What if were in the game next week? Your going to throw a guy in there thats hasn't taken a NFL snap. Blow out, yes throw him in there and give him a piece but were likely to see Cpep before JR.

[urwerthless]

Originally Posted by "BANK$RAIDER"

McCown is gunna get his throat cut next game at McAfee....I honestly feel kinda sorry for him but hey I was flippin him off and givin him the f*** you yesterday as well......

Damn, son, why don't you tell him how u really feel?

[VaRayder]

don't play this season at all- not worth it- we need more around him

[trojan56]

Originally Posted by MT Raider

I could not disagree more. When will he have a good team around him 2-3 years? How about putting him in and making the team better. Remember how bad the Titans were last year, 2-6 when they put VY in. Kiffin is lost

Actually The Titans were 0-3 when VY got his first start. But what people fail to see is VY was in camp the whole time! Even the anoucncers were saying he wont learn much this year. besides what has VY done this year? nothing! the difference is Young has an Oline which is why they can sqeek out these wins and oh yeah they have a pretty good Defense.

[Tha E&J Raider]

Originally Posted by WNYRAIDER

The problem is, where do you rank the QB play on the list of things that need to improve on 'O'? Terrible play at more times than not at that position has contributed big-time to the overall poor product on the field. I don't see how the offense can improve significantly without better play from the leader of that unit. (Whoever that may be at the time)

We did have a 100 yd rusher yesterday so that position seemed solid, at least for another Sunday. The poor play at the QB position simply left us with no chance. Who knows, maybe the thought of protecting the future may inspire and focus the O-line in a way they have been unable to focus for the last several weeks.

When will the perfect time for him to enter be? (Wondering out loud)

exactly.....this offense will not get better under McCown..it will only get worse...the O-Line or lack of speed at reciever aren't the only problems here...McCown has proven to be garbage, and as crazy as this sounds has proven that even culpepper with a makeshift knee is a better option for us...at least we stayed in games with culpepper...everygame josh has started we've been down 2 or 3 scores quickly...lions...broncos...texans...only exception being the browns....why??.. because he doesn't know how to lead this offense..so many three and outs it's rediculous....i understand kiffin's logic for not throwing russell in with a bad offensive squad, but if he's gunna wait for it to get better under the leadership of a dennis the menace look a-like..then he'll be waitin' for a long time, and russell will not see the field this year

[Tono]

Originally Posted by VaRayder

don't play this season at all- not worth it- we need more around him

It's a good thing we don't use that philosophy on defense. He'd be on the bench for years.

Making millions.

[BlackRain37]

Originally Posted by "BANK$RAIDER"

Kiffin is a smart guy and I respect his decison to not destroy JaMarcus's mentality and his confidence. I also respect Kiffin for not getting caught up in what the media is saying and what the fans want in regards to Russell. McCown is gunna get his throat cut next game at McAfee....I honestly feel kinda sorry for him but hey I was flippin him off and givin him the f*** you yesterday as well......I trust Kiffin is making the right decision

Like him or not, that guy is taking a beating and giving his all for this team and thats how you respond? Nice. Just because we dont want him as our starter in no way justifies that kind of behavior towards a Raider QB.

Ironically, M.Vick flips off the crowd and they still love him. Yet, McCown is a piece of **** for playing his heart out. If you wanna flip someone off, try flippin off Russell's agents and the Raider Front Office for not getting JR into camp on time.

Having said that, we all knew this was a tune up yet for Kiffin. It all begins next year when Russell and the offense can start fresh. Hopefully he'll start a few games this season to get him ready for next year.

[VADER08]

Originally Posted by LOUISVILLE R8R

I can't argue with Kiffin's logic here. this team needs to improve dramatically before we throw him out there.

So let me get this straight. We drafted Russell in order to make this team better right? Now we are saying this team needs to get better before we put Russell in the mix? I thought Russell was supposed to be the start to making this team better? If he is only worth playing on a good team then that kind of defeats the entire purpose of the worst team in the NFL drafting 1st. Bottom line is we aren't going to be good for a very long time. Playing Russell is the beginning of this rebuild on offense unless we somehow bring in superstars next offseason to surround him with, we are doing no good by not getting him in there now to prepare for the years to come. It worked with the Bengals to sit Carson Palmer his entire first year because they had Kitna who quite honestly is pretty damned good. We have McClown and used up Culpepper. I think we all know what needs to be done. Being scared to start improving is not an option people. We've thrown all options out the window. Time to start working for that paycheck.

[Jimbo UK]

This is a guy who's not used to losing

He should be by now, he has watched 6 losses so far....does it make much difference if he is watching vs playing in these loses?

At least if he is playing he gets to learn what it's like in the NFL.

Is he of that fragile a mind that we need to build a team capable of going 9-7 before he can start? In that case he will be on the bench for another 5 years!

[wvroyalty]

I am torn between having him play and not having him play. I would like for JR to get some experience in this year, maybe 2 games or so. But, if he is just going to take a pounding I say wait until next year. Our O-line has to step up and start protecting the QB consistently. If they do not it doesn't matter who is playing QB, they will never get a chance to show what they can do.

[Spottie]

Originally Posted by Jimbo UK

He should be by now, he has watched 6 losses so far....does it make much difference if he is watching vs playing in these loses?

At least if he is playing he gets to learn what it's like in the NFL.

Is he of that fragile a mind that we need to build a team capable of going 9-7 before he can start? In that case he will be on the bench for another 5 years!

This kid is 22 years of age for crying out loud. And yes he is human, just in case you didn't get it. He's no friggin machine, alright? Stop talking about players as if they vere Madden-Like Models. There is a psychological approach to this game as well. the coaches think long term, as most of the "fans" are unwilling or unable of, (I vote for the latter) and therefore want to protect Russell as well as possible. That does not mean that he has a weak character or anything.

[JFF]

Originally Posted by WNYRAIDER