Can a #1 overall wideout change a team?

[Mr.Murder]

Going into the draft I wanted Gaines Adams or Okoye. Either one of them as a compliment to Burgess, learning at the example of Warren Sapp.

I knew Quinn would lose his bowl game vs. LSU but I still think he's the best quarterback. His feet are better, he plays under center more, a pro style offense. He made Notre Dame better than they were.

Russel has so much physical topside and an accurate deep arm, but in college he would throw into double coverage consistently. Can he do that in the pros and not get his WR killed? The contact rules here are different and your progressions/routes work more to the outside and he hasn't shown me big consistency doing that. His team won big games without him, and he had worse outings vs. top teams (four turnovers vs. Florida) than did Quinn against his LSU.

Looking to the season I wanted Gaines Adams, skill player at DE who could run circles around Kearse and who already plays the strong side to compliment DBurg. We can patch together a QB with the system Kiffin will employ, but one who will throw a lot because he will go to the pass and stay with it in real time.

After the bowl games it's somewhat different. Adams was solid, had his pads pulled out of his jersey several times in a loss, kept his calm and composure because he knew better days were in store. Gaines is still great in my book, he played every line position.

Okoye has gotten huge and it may take back his strongest trait(speed and quickness) but it could be his growing streak(only 19). Remember Sapp went from end to tackles in a Dungy defense, he does that already. He also has added the size to be a 3-4 end in the Ryan specialty sets. The kid, staying healthy, could develop into all time material.

Russel is another story, the team he played with had some head coaching changes but kept most of its group intact. Katrina also affected everyone in LA, yet he actually improved, despite some tough family circumstance.

Russel got better every year, but minus a bowl win, would have to had to wait another year. Counting a redshirt, some injuries, and leaving a year early you've got a lot to consider. He missed their best bowl wins while he was there to redshirt or injuries.

Where he's improved is his approach to the game, hiring passing coaches to hone his mechanics. His arm can use the entire field, where other passers may have to roll where they want to throw to help their delivery.

Back to Quinn, who has added much to his strength. He can use his feet to make plays, call plays from a no huddle set, work a true pro offense. He had one great wideout on his team all this time and a lot of role players as supporting cast. For his reps he's far better at taking care of the ball in the turnover category. Seven INT to 400 plus attempts each of the past two seasons.

Our team may be building, but some of those pieces have a narrow window and need to win now. Quinn can do that better than anyone and is a fit for the system. Sapp doesn't have time to spot some passer two or three years to bring it together. We plan on winning now and in the future with Quinn.

He minimizes mistakes and has an accelerated learning curve so he can fit into a conservative game plan, he's used to being the predominant factor and can handle heavy reps in all phases of the game. He had limited talent to work with and still played to high levels, arm him with better teammates and his ceiling will rise exponentially.

The young man is noted for his dogged preparedness, going into game film for the next game immediately. Nothing should be a surprise to him at this level.

That said, Russel can see more of the field. He may simply be undenied for individual characteristics.

Just Quinn Baby. Team sport we're talking about. He's undeniably the best his team had, never split reps or missed out. He makes teammates better.

[32asasin]

Originally Posted by R8rNation

Two Words.

Boldin Fitzgerald

Now tell me the record of that team since they aquired Boldin. Hell, gimme the record after Larry joined the team as well.

Nuff said

two more words for you

Matt Leinheart.

by all acounts "FRANCHISE QB"

now tell me the record since they got their FRANCHISE QB Matt leinheart

this is a TEAM SPORT

like our pathetic OL the cards have the same or worse problem so
NO MATTER WHAT QB YOU HAVE BACK THEIR RUSELL OR WALTER
if they have pressure after 3-4 seconds the play from our QB is going to suck!!!!.

so to give up on walter and say we need a qb because or tool OC made him look like a bust and turned a 1500 all purpose RB look like crap is wrong.

I like to trade down IF WE CAN GET FAIR Value for our pick if not we take the best player available and give walter a real chance, if he fails then we position ourselfs to make a play for

BRIAN BROHM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JR.