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Building blocks to make our vision (SB WIN) a reality...
I will not claim to know it all. I will not say I will know the outcome, but as we as Raider fans have been waiting patiently (some of us) for this thing to get turned around. I have been a fan for a very very long time and have spent $$$$ to support this team and I probably hasnt seen a year like this year and last year. I see players not caring and giving up etc.etc.etc. I will not say bad descisions because in reality bad descisions are only bad if it did not work.

I am tired of losing! I am tired of having to wake up every monday morning mad because my team 'stunk it up' the day before. I guess I just wasnt used to this. At least the Raiders that I grew up watching fought to the end, even when losing.

Anyway, I kind of want to share WHAT I FEEL (doesnt mean I am right or I am claiming to be right) that the building blocks are to make our vision of winning a SB again a reality.

AL DAVIS - Respected and appreciated! I for one have the utmost respect form what and who he is as part of the Raiders. However, I think its time for him to step back and give the reigns to a younger man that has the same vision of winning like him. Time has past him by and his methods of operation is now more of a miss than hit. 'Just win baby' - I dont think is enough to win a SB! winning one here and there is no longer going to help you build a consistent attitude of winning. We need to have a system and stick to it. We need to win consistently and 'JUST WIN' in the playoffs!

STOP THE DELUSION OF A STRONG ARMED QB and the 'Vertical' offense - We have heard it time and time again that the Raiders and Al Davis love 'strong armed' QB's but we broke records when we had the 'weak arm' QB in MVP Rich Gannon! we just saw how Jeff Garcia even gave the Eagles new life. We need someone who can lead us and take us to that goal of winning consistency! Strong armed QB is not necessary going to give you yardage and wins. Two examples are Drew Breese and Chad Pennington they have produced with their 'weak arms' and had thousands of yard and tons of TD's this year. Yes, WCO can do it too. regardless of the system, we need players to execute.

STICK WITH A SYSTEM - I know this is hard for everyone but patience is really needed. We need an innovative 'new breed' system to install here and stick to it. Bring in the players needed for that system to work.

You build from these and I think we are on our way to our 4th Superbowl but like how any foundation will work this will not work until my first block is laid. Because as supportive as I am with Al, I think his method of picking players and signing free agents doesnt work anymore.

There, if this doesnt happen. I will continue to do my best to be the best fan I know how.

Whats your building block?


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Old 01-08-2007, 11:40 AM
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Russell is my building block a qb coach such as sark and him working together, i like it
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I will not claim to know it all. I will not say I will know the outcome, but as we as Raider fans have been waiting patiently (some of us) for this thing to get turned around. I have been a fan for a very very long time and have spent $$$$ to support this team and I probably hasnt seen a year like this year and last year. I see players not caring and giving up etc.etc.etc. I will not say bad descisions because in reality bad descisions are only bad if it did not work.

I am tired of losing! I am tired of having to wake up every monday morning mad because my team 'stunk it up' the day before. I guess I just wasnt used to this. At least the Raiders that I grew up watching fought to the end, even when losing.

Anyway, I kind of want to share WHAT I FEEL (doesnt mean I am right or I am claiming to be right) that the building blocks are to make our vision of winning a SB again a reality.

AL DAVIS - Respected and appreciated! I for one have the utmost respect form what and who he is as part of the Raiders. However, I think its time for him to step back and give the reigns to a younger man that has the same vision of winning like him. Time has past him by and his methods of operation is now more of a miss than hit. 'Just win baby' - I dont think is enough to win a SB! winning one here and there is no longer going to help you build a consistent attitude of winning. We need to have a system and stick to it. We need to win consistently and 'JUST WIN' in the playoffs!

STOP THE DELUSION OF A STRONG ARMED QB - We have heard it time and time again that the Raiders and Al Davis love 'strong armed' QB's but we broke records when we had the 'weak arm' QB in MVP Rich Gannon! we just saw how Jeff Garcia even gave the Eagles new life. We need someone who can lead us and take us to that goal of winning consistency! Strong armed QB is not necessary going to give you yardage and wins. Two examples are Drew Breese and Chad Pennington they have produced with their 'weak arms' and had thousands of yard and tons of TD's this year.

STICK WITH A SYSTEM - I know this is hard for everyone but patience is really needed. We need an innovative 'new breed' system to install here and stick to it. Bring in the players needed for that system to work.

You build from these and I think we are on our way to our 4th Superbowl but like how any foundation will work this will not work until my first block is laid. Because as supportive as I am with Al, I think his method of picking players and signing free agents doesnt work anymore.

There, if this doesnt happen. I will continue to do my best to be the best fan I know how.

Whats your building block?


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Excellent post.....

I'll just add hire the best HC available. Stop going after athletes instead of football players (like keeping Whitted because he is fast)......
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Great post code, I'm with you on the strong QB thing, I will take the smart QB above the strong armed QB anyday. I agree on all points of your post.
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Great post code, I'm with you on the strong QB thing, I will take the smart QB above the strong armed QB anyday. I agree on all points of your post.
That wont happen unless the first block is laid.
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I want Jeff Garcia as our QB. He is 36-37 and has more mobility than a lot of QB's and has a lot of fire. I miss that west coast offense.
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That wont happen unless the first block is laid.
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My building block has already been laid, we have a young, solid, aggressive defense. If we can sign the guys in this system to long term deals, we can compete for years to come. Good defense puts you in position to win ball games.

The second block is finding a young, energetic, inspiring HC to lead the team until the offense catches up (which I am sure it will sooner than later). Hopefully there is such a coach that wants to take the job.
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Hopefully there is such a coach that wants to take the job.
That is why you need block number one laid.
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Good Post man agree we need a new system and to stick with it or at least give it somes to get the players we need to run it.
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I want Jeff Garcia as our QB. He is 36-37 and has more mobility than a lot of QB's and has a lot of fire. I miss that west coast offense.
I dont want him. I just want someone with a heart like him.
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