raiders talking to holmgen

[briz]

holmgren was a good HC at greene-bay and seatle but a poor GM at cleveland

He wasn't the GM, he was the team president. And the Browns are in much better shape now than they were in 2010 when he got there. He'd likely still be there is Lerner hadn't sold the team.

[XRamfan]

True that. While I agree with those saying our stadium sucks, it is better than the Stick. Though I do have a soft place in my heart for the stick as I grew up going to Giants games there. A lot of good memories of that place watching baseball ( and I was there for Tim Browns OT winner as well ).

I agree, it was a pleasure in the late 70`s early 80`s going to Giants games when the Dodgers came up and usually thumped the Giants.(and there were more of us Dodger fans than Giants fans) I loved every Willie McCovey swing (and miss) but the crowd went "ohhhh". ;)



Back to topic, what`s the big deal with the Raiders entertaining more prospects in the front office? Most have been pissing and moaning for years for Al to catch up with the league and now that we see signs of actual progression, some have their panties in a bunch. I don`t GOS about anything other than seeing improvement of the product on the field and hopefully seeing the Raiders stay HOME in Oakland.

[Almaden]

QWest or whatever it was called was under construction between 2000-2002. Funding/state wide election was held June 1997. Holmgren started his Seahawk tenure in 1999. Given his hand as GM and HC, doubt he had the time to invest on the stadium side of things, but it seems everything for the stadium was set in place by the time he got to Seattle.

Thanks for answering that. It also occurred to me that the Raiders effort to bring in a senior exec of Holmgren's stature, or of that other guy, Ray what's his face from the NFL may signal that Amy is ready to smell the roses. She's been with the Raiders her entire career. Started as intern, then attorney, then CEO. Working for Al all those years had to be a grind. 365, 24/7. With all the works she's done, and the huge tasks ahead, it would not surprise me if she quietly suggested to Mark that its time to bring in a new CEO/Team president.

[MileHighRaider]

Holmgren would be a great addition to this organization.

Even if he doesn't weigh in on a single decision - stadium, personnel, coaches, playbooks, anything. He immediately adds an element of legitimacy that this organization needs as we try to build and recruit premier talent.

I welcome this move if true.

[EmeraldCityR8r]

First of all Mckenzie will be making the personell decisions. We would be lucky to get someone of Holmgrens respectability in the front office, its crazy that whatever the Raiders do is never good enough for some on here

[Luca_Brasi]

The Browns are in much better shape now than befor Holmgren got there.

Holmgren has this presence about him, when he is in a room you know he is there, when he walks in you sit up straight and you watch your language.

Lets get it done.

[Raider Loyalist]

Holmgren in Oakland.....

I think I like it.

[Curious Jorge]

whoever does NOT like this move ..is simply just an idiot... about time we bring in proven people to help out this mess out even more...about time we bring in respectable nfl minds that will help evaluate the players and get this boat up and running the right way....im fully convinced that there are some fans out there that are just so use to the losing culture that they have no more confidence in anything that happens here on out....RM is doing the best he can with what he has currently and i personally think he is doing a good job....time will come were the raiders will be on top again....

[DakotaRaider]

We need a better stadium
Its called marketing
possibly host a Superbowl with a better venue
NFL games are all about the fan experience, full stadiums and now security
The HOT sadly is none of that.
Maybe holmgren could help make that happen.

[MadBomber24]

I agree, it was a pleasure in the late 70`s early 80`s going to Giants games when the Dodgers came up and usually thumped the Giants.(and there were more of us Dodger fans than Giants fans) I loved every Willie McCovey swing (and miss) but the crowd went "ohhhh". ;)



Back to topic, what`s the big deal with the Raiders entertaining more prospects in the front office? Most have been pissing and moaning for years for Al to catch up with the league and now that we see signs of actual progression, some have their panties in a bunch. I don`t GOS about anything other than seeing improvement of the product on the field and hopefully seeing the Raiders stay HOME in Oakland.

ahh man, a Dodgers fan? Well I guess not everyone can be as perfect as me.... And the BEAST!

[prolific]

About a leadership role. I don't like this. He has sucked in every leadership role he has been in

Well you're completely clueless huh?

Anyway, this would be a great addition (understatement?) Finally, the possibility of the front office actually resembling a front office.

[kinz]

Hard thing to have an opinion about from the outside. On the one hand, Holmgren has been around, made his mark, and may be just the guy to have a steady hand and take the broad view, letting Reggie do his thing with the exception when he sees Reggie's inexperience may be pointing him off track. They worked together before, so maybe there is a real chemistry.

On the other hand, Holmgren has been around, has made his mark, and may be just the guy to figure that Reggie is now his little underling like he was in green bay. There may be chemistry before, but maybe not the right kind.

For this kind of thing you have to know the personalities of these people and how they fit. Could be great, could be a real step back.

[Dj Diesel]

About a leadership role. I don't like this. He has sucked in every leadership role he has been in

Taking two franchises to Super Bowls is sucking?

Wonder if RM is leaning on Holmgren for advice on Gino Smith.

Holmgren might be the last guy u want to ask for QB advice

[corleone]

Holmgren might be the last guy u want to ask for QB advice

Brett Favre was no slouch.

[EmeraldCityR8r]

Holmgren might be the last guy u want to ask for QB advice

Brett Favre was no slouch.

Same with Matt Hasselback