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    All we need is a good conditioning coach to stop all these stupid injures. Yes you DMC! We need you for 16+ games!!!!
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    I gotta give Jeb York a lot of credit. For someone as young as he is, he's demonstrated excellent judgement that's now paying dividends, both on the field and off. He navigated the politics, legal issues with Great America, and financing of the new stadium, the marketing of the team, and the rebuilding of the team. He made mistakes, like promoting Singltary for example, but he was also wiling to cut his losses, by firing him and going big in hiring Harbaugh.

    Having said that, I'm also pleased with Mark Davis so far. Time will tell if Reggie and DA are capable or not, but his efforts solicit outside advice, bring in new, respected footballl people from the outside, beef up the front office with people who have the experience needed to instill modern operational processes, and help with the stadium effort are all commendable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    The 49ers have drafted some great players lately, and made a great free agent signing in Justin Smith.
    I think Harbaugh has done a good job, but he wouldn't look near as good with a crappy roster.

    The owner doesn't strike me as football savvy, but he has some good people running the team.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    THIS!


    Took the words right off my keyboard EXACTLY. Rep headed your way.

    The difference between them and us is when they where drafting in the top 10 they were nailing there draft picks and we where whiffing on ours.

    No doubt Harbaugh has helped them but have him take the reigns over here and does anybody seriously believe that he would be looking so good?

    Great players can make coaches look good and good coaches that understand the game and can relate to players and get more out of them. HOWEVER, you HAVE to have good players in order to win the game(s). I have seen many a good coach NOT succeed with okay/poor players (Bill Bilichek in Cleveland comes to mind) and then go to a team that does have good players and be successful (Bill Biliceck in New England).

    Jimmy Johnson did this same thing in reverse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayg0stylz View Post
    So what he's saying is....if you have good players, good coaches, a good facility and a good plan you'll succeed.


    Innovative...
    Shocking news isnt it??

    Definitely don't trust Allen right now and I personally feel he is incompetent but I will side with him if he makes better decisions this coming season. Still not sold on RM either but Ill give him a chance as well. Can't expect things done overnight.


    Thanks to Blackhole John for the sig!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayg0stylz View Post
    So what he's saying is....if you have good players, good coaches, a good facility and a good plan you'll succeed.


    Innovative...
    Well, to be fair, they hit on quite a few draft picks while the Raiders were swinging and missing so there's got to be a certain amount of wisdom walking he halls in Santa Clara.

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    York really seemed to LOVE their conditioning coaches and even mentioned by name the assistant and the trainers. He said that things are so good at the level that you need to get all the little stuff right. He said it does matter about your weight room and who is working with the players there. So, sure, every team has weights, many are doing yoga and Pilates too, but if you get the right people coaching AND the right players who buy in and work their butts off, then combine that with excellent coaches, you can get there. He said the difference between winning the NFC West and winning the NFC championship was not much but it adds up. He did not mention lucky breaks too, but we all know you need some along the way. They are lucky they made the finals with their kicker Akers sputtering through the second half of the season.

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    Until Russell Wilson burst on the scene, playing in a pathetic division didnt hurt the 49ers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderman123 View Post
    Until Russell Wilson burst on the scene, playing in a pathetic division didnt hurt the 49ers

    That Peyton Manning dude changed ours in the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lix333 View Post
    In this era of football the athletes are maxed out physically to their highest potential. Most everyone is fast, strong, and has good enough football instincts to play in the NFL. The difference is coaching. Coaches can either take you to the next level and put you in a scheme that fits or put you in a scheme that doesn't and make you look like a complete bust. Obviously, this isn't true for every player because there are always guys that are just naturally elite. But even those guys if they go to a team with poor coaching they'll look like busts.

    You see it every year, now more then ever. Guys that come out in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and some don't get even get drafted but in year 3 or 4 they look like they should have been a 1st round pick and play at an elite level for a competitive team. Its the coaching.
    Just a small part of the equation, Bring in Jim Harbaugh to coach the Raiders and you still have a 4 or 5 win team. Some guys come out in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th round and survive and many more don't. For every success story you read about there are tons that are not successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcraider37 View Post
    Just a small part of the equation, Bring in Jim Harbaugh to coach the Raiders and you still have a 4 or 5 win team. Some guys come out in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th round and survive and many more don't. For every success story you read about there are tons that are not successful.
    I disagree. Not saying we go to the Superbowl or even the playoffs but 1 thing is for sure. Jim Harbaugh doesn't seem like a guy that would try and make his players fit in a system they cannot play in. Our offense in the right system is explosive. Already proven.

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    The key to winning is scoring more points than the other team scores.

    The key to good defense is keeping the opposing team out of the end zone

    Before you challenge the Raider Fans to sell out the Colisseum or say the locals don't support the team Please Read Raider187's extremely informative post: http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakl...ance-woes.html

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    The reason for the 49ers success isn't a magical elixir.....


    They used their early draft picks to build up their oline and defense with talent.


    Once they had the defense and oline settled, then they went out and drafted skill positions on the offense to make use of the oline and have a defense in place while the offense gels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leafs43 View Post
    The reason for the 49ers success isn't a magical elixir.....


    They used their early draft picks to build up their oline and defense with talent.


    Once they had the defense and oline settled, then they went out and drafted skill positions on the offense to make use of the oline and have a defense in place while the offense gels.
    Good point, build the defense, and that's what it looks like we're going to do. Their defense is really a great testament that you don't need to situation substitute every play, if there is a enough chemistry and ability. This allows some of your backup defense to excel on special teams.

    If a Niner fan ever uses the Salary Cap as an excuse for their suck, that ain't a diehard fan, you have to hit in the draft to sustain success, their 15 year run with Walsh/Seifert was made by 3 once in a generation HOFers, Montana, Rice and Lott, these guys were not only gifted, but they led by example, they set the tone every year. It's the same thing with Brady, you get a guy that can demand hard work, the next guy and the next guy and the next guy will follow suit.

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    Other than last year because they had a low draft pick, the only 2 skill positions drafted by the niners in 7 years was Vernon Davis in '06 and Crabtree in '10.



    Other than that the niners have been drafting strictly oline and defense. This is how you build a team.

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