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    It's possible the Raiders will try to deal Palmer. I could see new Cardinals coach Bruce Arians making a play for Palmer. Arizona might unload disappointing Kevin Kolb and a 2014 draft pick to Oakland for Palmer in a swap. Arizona gets a veteran QB and drafts one, while the Raiders go "all in" with Pryor and if he does good great if not here comes Johnny Manziel in 2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewDealRaider1 View Post
    It's possible the Raiders will try to deal Palmer. I could see new Cardinals coach Bruce Arians making a play for Palmer. Arizona might unload disappointing Kevin Kolb and a 2014 draft pick to Oakland for Palmer in a swap. Arizona gets a veteran QB and drafts one, while the Raiders go "all in" with Pryor and if he does good great if not here comes Johnny Manziel in 2014.
    Manziel will be a sophomore next year. It's very possible he doesn't come out till 2015 or 2016. I wouldn't even think about him for next years draft at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadBomber24 View Post
    Manziel will be a sophomore next year. It's very possible he doesn't come out till 2015 or 2016. I wouldn't even think about him for next years draft at this time.
    He will be a third-year sophomore next season and I don't think he will stay past another year at College Station. I live in Texas and all the scuttle I have heard has him going pro in 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadBomber24 View Post
    Manziel will be a sophomore next year. It's very possible he doesn't come out till 2015 or 2016. I wouldn't even think about him for next years draft at this time.
    He'll be a RS SO next year so technically he'll be eligible...as well as the kid at Oregon.

    The way Johnny parties off the field he'll probably enter the draft if teams give him a 1st round grade...

    Russell Wilson has been a big help to him in terms of teams view short athletic QBs.


    Teddy Bridgewater will be the number 1 pocket passer next year though.


    Pryor right now is a more athletic Gradkowski until proven otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewDealRaider1 View Post
    He will be a third-year sophomore next season and I don't think he will stay past another year at College Station. I live in Texas and all the scuttle I have heard has him going pro in 2014.
    I like when players stay in college, but there is a point of no return. Next year, if he plays anywhere near the level he did this year, and he should, if not get better, he will be a top pick, probably #1. Under that scenario, returning to school only risks injury, draft position, and ultimately millions of dollars.

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    Jadeveon Clowney, aka the Lawrence Taylor Jr., will also probably be in the draft next year. Not that I am advocating the Raiders having yet another awful year, but next year is a much better year to struggle and get a high pick than this year was.

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    haha what's funny is people will now run with this for 8 months now as if he truly has a shot. RM just spitting typical GM stuff....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    If Palmer is the best QB we have, and gives us the best chance to win, why wouldn't any Raider fan want Palmer to start?

    Are you a fan of Terrell Pryor, or the Oakland Raiders?
    Palmer hasnt given any team a chance to win since about 2006.

    He's like a wet fart blowing in the wind.

    Palmer is pretty much a better version of Leinart. He'll complete some short passes, but he can't throw down the field and bring zero big play potential to the offense.

    Pryor's athleticism alone can help against the pass rush and improve the run game.

    He may not be a great pure passer, but his athleticism also allows him to make plays in the passing games that pocket QBs can't make.
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    Did anyone read the thread titled Q & A with Olsen. Sounds to me like Pryor isn't in the plans for the Raiders in the near future (next season).
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    Quote Originally Posted by coloradoraider View Post
    Jadeveon Clowney, aka the Lawrence Taylor Jr., will also probably be in the draft next year. Not that I am advocating the Raiders having yet another awful year, but next year is a much better year to struggle and get a high pick than this year was.
    I would have to believe if we got the 1st pick RM could not pass on Clowney. I don't think it would matter what our QB situation is at the time. Literally depending on who we pick this year and if we end up number 1 next we could have the best Dline in the league in 2 years. Not only that we would have a solid Dline for years and you can't let that opportunity pass.

    I don't think we will have the number 1 pick next year so depending on Pryor taking a QB could be the best play. Time will tell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    If Palmer is the best QB we have, and gives us the best chance to win, why wouldn't any Raider fan want Palmer to start?

    Are you a fan of Terrell Pryor, or the Oakland Raiders?


    Carson Palmer
    Career Record as Starting QB: 54 Wins - 67 Losses


    2004
    QB Rating - 77.3
    Completion Percentage - 60.9 %
    Touchdowns - 18
    Interceptions - 18
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 2.6
    Rushing Touchdowns - 1
    Record as Starting QB - 6 Wins - 7 Losses

    2005
    QB Rating - 101.1
    Completion Percentage - 67.8 %
    Touchdowns - 32
    Interceptions - 12
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 1.2
    Rushing Touchdowns - 1
    Record as Starting QB - 11 Wins - 5 Losses

    2006
    QB Rating - 93.9
    Completion Percentage - 62.3 %
    Touchdowns - 28
    Interceptions - 13
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 1.4
    Rushing Touchdowns - 0
    Record as Starting QB - 8 Wins - 8 Losses

    2007
    QB Rating - 86.7
    Completion Percentage - 64.9 %
    Touchdowns - 26
    Interceptions - 20
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 0.4
    Rushing Touchdowns - 0
    Record as Starting QB - 7 Wins - 9 Losses

    2008
    QB Rating - 69.0
    Completion Percentage - 58.1 %
    Touchdowns - 3
    Interceptions - 4
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 6.3
    Rushing Touchdowns - 0
    Record as Starting QB - 0 Wins - 4 Losses

    2009
    QB Rating - 83.6
    Completion Percentage - 60.5 %
    Touchdowns - 21
    Interceptions - 13
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 2.4
    Rushing Touchdowns - 3
    Record as Starting QB - 10 Wins - 6 Losses

    2010
    QB Rating - 82.4
    Completion Percentage - 61.8 %
    Touchdowns - 26
    Interceptions - 20
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 1.6
    Rushing Touchdowns - 0
    Record as Starting QB - 4 Wins - 12 Losses

    2011
    QB Rating - 80.5
    Completion Percentage - 60.7 %
    Touchdowns - 13
    Interceptions - 16
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 1.3
    Rushing Touchdowns - 1
    Record as Starting QB - 4 Wins - 5 Losses

    2012
    QB Rating - 85.3
    Completion Percentage - 61.1 %
    Touchdowns - 22
    Interceptions - 14
    Rushing Yards Per Attempt - 2
    Rushing Touchdowns - 1
    Record as Starting QB - 4 Wins - 11 Losses



    Summary

    6 Losing Seasons

    0 Wins - 4 Losses 2008 Record as Starting QB
    4 Wins - 12 Losses 2010 Record as Starting QB
    4 Wins - 11 Losses 2012 Record as Starting QB
    4 Wins - 5 Losses 2011 Record as Starting QB
    6 Wins - 7 Losses 2004 Record as Starting QB
    7 Wins - 9 Losses 2007 Record as Starting QB


    1 500 Season

    8 Wins - 8 Losses 2006 Record as Starting QB


    2 Winning Seasons

    10 Wins - 6 Losses 2009 Record as Starting QB
    11 Wins - 5 Losses 2005 Record as Starting QB




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    Quote Originally Posted by coloradoraider View Post
    I see what you did there; his name is Johnnie Manziel
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    Quote Originally Posted by coloradoraider View Post
    I see what you did there; his name is Johnnie Manziel
    Teddy bridge water!

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    Of course it's going to be a competition, what are these guys taking the field for if not? And of course Palmer will be the starter no matter how well Pryor plays because Palmer is a vet making more than anyone else on the team. If Palmers not starting next season he shouldn't be here.

    With that said it sounds like Pryor is pretty much locked in as the no.2. He'll get his shot and I think he'll run with it and not look back, no pun intended, when it does happen.

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    Open competition?

    It becomes hard for Big Red to ignore what Pryor potentially could bring to the Raiders in the form of production, especially when he had a front row seat to the Kapernick experience at the expense of his "model" franchise Green Bay Packers.

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