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    Stats request from the board.

    I am interested in knowing how many penalties were assessed to Briesel and Kelly this past season. Please post them if you have them or if not, provide a link. Thanks!

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    Tommy Kelly: 9/75 - 2 offside, 1 roughing the passer, 2 unnecessary rougness, 4 other
    Mike Brisiel: 9/70 - 5 false start, 3 holding, 1 other

    2012 NFL Penalty Statistics - The Football Database
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabbulous View Post
    Tommy Kelly: 9/75 - 2 offside, 1 roughing the passer, 2 unnecessary rougness, 4 other
    Mike Brisiel: 9/70 - 5 false start, 3 holding, 1 other

    2012 NFL Penalty Statistics - The Football Database
    Only 2 offsides for Kelly? Can that be right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabbulous View Post
    Tommy Kelly: 9/75 - 2 offside, 1 roughing the passer, 2 unnecessary rougness, 4 other
    Mike Brisiel: 9/70 - 5 false start, 3 holding, 1 other

    2012 NFL Penalty Statistics - The Football Database
    Thats it for Kelly?

    I would have thought a hell of alot more, seemed liked his name was being called ecery other plat lol.

    Is there a stat where Kelly would have gotten a penalty if the the other team didnt decline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FROZEN View Post
    Only 2 offsides for Kelly? Can that be right?
    Both on back to back plays in season opener versus San Diego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSOTM View Post
    Thats it for Kelly?

    I would have thought a hell of alot more, seemed liked his name was being called ecery other plat lol.

    Is there a stat where Kelly would have gotten a penalty if the the other team didnt decline?
    From the site:

    Figures are for regular season games only. Does not include declined or offsetting penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabbulous View Post
    Both on back to back plays in season opener versus San Diego.
    There is no freaking way Kelly went 15 games straight with out a off side penalty
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSOTM View Post
    There is no freaking way Kelly went 15 games straight with out a off side penalty
    Probably got some that were declined or offsetting.

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    I can remember at least 5 times kelly jumped ofsides, he had two by game 1 and was benched for a series. Number 93 came up pretty often

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSOTM View Post
    Thats it for Kelly?

    I would have thought a hell of alot more, seemed liked his name was being called ecery other plat lol.

    Is there a stat where Kelly would have gotten a penalty if the the other team didnt decline?
    Well according to profootballfocus is Kelly had 10 penalties and only 1 of them was declined by the other team .

    I'm seeing that Lamarr on there was 2nd on the defense with 5 penalties and 1 declined by the other team .

    Bryant ,Wheeler , and Branch each with 4 penalties for them .


    Offense there is showing Brisiel with 10 penalties and 1 declined by the other team .

    That Wiz and Veldheer each with 6 penalties and Wiz had 1 declined by the other team .
    Which pretty good cause Big V had like 11 penalties last season so nice drop here for him this year .

    Cooper & Barnes with 5 penalties and 1 declined for Cooper by the other team .

    Carson had 4 but got like 2 or 3 of them in the Jags game because Knapp sent the play in so late for the Delay of game .
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    penalites count for players

    Quote Originally Posted by Fabbulous View Post
    Tommy Kelly: 9/75 - 2 offside, 1 roughing the passer, 2 unnecessary rougness, 4 other
    Mike Brisiel: 9/70 - 5 false start, 3 holding, 1 other

    2012 NFL Penalty Statistics - The Football Database
    Link for list on penalties and player counts. Oakland Raiders - 2012 - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

    Name Penalty Count Penalties/Game Penalty Yards Yards/Game Declined Offsetting Pre-Snap Penalties
    M.Brisiel 10 0.625 70 4.375 1 0 5 False Start (5), Offensive Holding (4), Clipping (1)

    T.Kelly 9 0.563 75 4.688 0 0 6 Encroachment (3), Unnecessary Roughness (2), Defensive Offside (2), Roughing the Passer (1), Neutral Zone Infraction (1)

    K.Barnes 6 0.375 44 2.75 0 0 3 False Start (3), Offensive Holding (3)

    J.Veldheer 6 0.375 50 3.125 0 0 2 Offensive Holding (3), False Start (2), Illegal Block Above the Waist (1)

    T.Branch 5 0.313 40 2.5 0 1 0 Unnecessary Roughness (1), Illegal Contact (1), Horse Collar Tackle (1), Illegal Bat (1), Defensive Holding (1)

    P.Wheeler 5 0.313 40 2.5 1 0 0 Defensive Holding (3), Face Mask (15 Yards) (1), Personal Foul (1)

    C.Francies 5 0.313 70 4.375 0 0 0 Offensive Holding (3), Defensive Pass Interference (1), Face Mask (15 Yards) (1)

    S.Wisniewski 4 0.25 29 1.813 0 0 1 Offensive Holding (3), False Start (1)

    D.Bryant 4 0.25 38 2.375 0 0 2 Roughing the Passer (2), Neutral Zone Infraction (2)

    L.Houston 4 0.25 20 1.25 0 0 4 Neutral Zone Infraction (3), Defensive Offside (1)

    C.Carlisle 4 0.25 25 1.563 1 0 1 Offensive Holding (3), False Start (1)

    B.Myers 4 0.25 25 1.563 1 0 1 Offensive Pass Interference (2), Illegal Formation (1), Offensive Holding (1)

    C.Palmer 4 0.25 21 1.313 0 0 4 Delay of Game (4)

    M.Reece 4 0.25 20 1.25 1 0 2 False Start (2), Offensive Holding (1), Illegal Block Above the Waist (1)

    W.Smith 4 0.25 30 1.875 1 0 0 Offensive Holding (4)

    R.Seymour 3 0.188 20 1.25 0 0 2 Defensive Offside (2), Roughing the Passer (1)

    M.Shaughnessy 3 0.188 20 1.25 1 0 2 Encroachment (1), Roughing the Passer (1), Defensive Offside (1)

    M.Mitchell 2 0.125 10 0.625 1 0 0 Defensive Holding (1), Offensive Holding (1)

    A.Curry 2 0.125 30 1.875 0 0 0 Personal Foul (2)

    R.Gordon 2 0.125 20 1.25 0 0 1 Unnecessary Roughness (1), False Start (1)

    K.Clayton 2 0.125 20 1.25 0 0 0 Illegal Block Above the Waist (1), Unnecessary Roughness (1)

    P.Adams 2 0.125 6 0.375 0 0 0 Illegal Use of Hands (1), Offensive Holding (1)

    T.Bergstrom 2 0.125 20 1.25 0 0 0 Offensive Holding (2)

    R.Streater 2 0.125 15 0.938 0 0 1 Illegal Formation (1), Offensive Pass Interference (1)

    J.Olawale 2 0.125 10 0.625 1 0 1 Illegal Block Above the Waist (1), Illegal Shift (1)

    M.Goodson 2 0.125 0 0 0 2 0 Personal Foul (1), Illegal Block Above the Waist (1)

    D.Hagan 1 0.063 10 0.625 0 0 0 Illegal Block Above the Waist (1)

    T.Jones 1 0.063 15 0.938 0 0 0 Face Mask (15 Yards) (1)

    T.Pryor 1 0.063 10 0.625 0 0 0 Illegal Bat (1)

    D.Heyward 1 0.063 0 0 1 0 0 Illegal Touch Pass (1)

    M.Giordano 1 0.063 23 1.438 0 0 0 Defensive Pass Interference (1)

    J.Condo 1 0.063 5 0.313 0 0 1 False Start (1)

    D.Ausberry 1 0.063 4 0.25 0 0 1 False Start (1)

    S.Spencer 1 0.063 18 1.125 0 0 0 Defensive Pass Interference (1)

    T.Goethel 1 0.063 10 0.625 0 0 0 Offensive Holding (1)

    D.Tollefson 1 0.063 0 0 0 0 1 Neutral Zone Infraction (1)

    B.Ross 1 0.063 15 0.938 0 0 0 Unnecessary Roughness (1)

    C.Bilukidi 1 0.063 5 0.313 0 0 1 Defensive Offside (1)

    O.Schmitt 1 0.063 10 0.625 0 0 0 Offensive Pass Interference (1)

    M.Leinart 1 0.063 5 0.313 0 0 1 Delay of Game (1)

    S.Janikowski 1 0.063 0 0 0 0 0 Kickoff Out of Bounds (1)

    R.Bartell 1 0.063 11 0.688 0 0 0 Defensive Pass Interference (1)

    M.Burris 1 0.063 15 0.938 0 0 0 Unnecessary Roughness (1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROZEN View Post
    Only 2 offsides for Kelly? Can that be right?
    Okay so looking at Lebedeffs post he had 3 encroachments and a neutral zone infraction also......that makes more sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metallica0688 View Post
    Well according to profootballfocus is Kelly had 10 penalties and only 1 of them was declined by the other team .

    I'm seeing that Lamarr on there was 2nd on the defense with 5 penalties and 1 declined by the other team .

    Bryant ,Wheeler , and Branch each with 4 penalties for them .


    Offense there is showing Brisiel with 10 penalties and 1 declined by the other team .

    That Wiz and Veldheer each with 6 penalties and Wiz had 1 declined by the other team .
    Which pretty good cause Big V had like 11 penalties last season so nice drop here for him this year .

    Cooper & Barnes with 5 penalties and 1 declined for Cooper by the other team .

    Carson had 4 but got like 2 or 3 of them in the Jags game because Knapp sent the play in so late for the Delay of game .
    i do remember last year several of those penalties by V were "good" holds as he was beat and if not holding he would have gotten his QB hammered. So at least on those he was playing smart. Lets just hope this reduction in penalties also translates into getting beat a lot less. I remember some uneven performances out there by V this past year but honestly i couldn't give a good analysis of his play without watching the games again and concentrating on his play- what did you see?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lebedeff View Post
    Link for list on penalties and player counts. Oakland Raiders - 2012 - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

    Name Penalty Count Penalties/Game Penalty Yards Yards/Game Declined Offsetting Pre-Snap Penalties
    M.Brisiel 10 0.625 70 4.375 1 0 5 False Start (5), Offensive Holding (4), Clipping (1)

    T.Kelly 9 0.563 75 4.688 0 0 6 Encroachment (3), Unnecessary Roughness (2), Defensive Offside (2), Roughing the Passer (1), Neutral Zone Infraction (1)

    K.Barnes 6 0.375 44 2.75 0 0 3 False Start (3), Offensive Holding (3)

    J.Veldheer 6 0.375 50 3.125 0 0 2 Offensive Holding (3), False Start (2), Illegal Block Above the Waist (1)

    T.Branch 5 0.313 40 2.5 0 1 0 Unnecessary Roughness (1), Illegal Contact (1), Horse Collar Tackle (1), Illegal Bat (1), Defensive Holding (1)

    P.Wheeler 5 0.313 40 2.5 1 0 0 Defensive Holding (3), Face Mask (15 Yards) (1), Personal Foul (1)

    C.Francies 5 0.313 70 4.375 0 0 0 Offensive Holding (3), Defensive Pass Interference (1), Face Mask (15 Yards) (1)

    S.Wisniewski 4 0.25 29 1.813 0 0 1 Offensive Holding (3), False Start (1)

    D.Bryant 4 0.25 38 2.375 0 0 2 Roughing the Passer (2), Neutral Zone Infraction (2)

    L.Houston 4 0.25 20 1.25 0 0 4 Neutral Zone Infraction (3), Defensive Offside (1)

    C.Carlisle 4 0.25 25 1.563 1 0 1 Offensive Holding (3), False Start (1)

    B.Myers 4 0.25 25 1.563 1 0 1 Offensive Pass Interference (2), Illegal Formation (1), Offensive Holding (1)

    C.Palmer 4 0.25 21 1.313 0 0 4 Delay of Game (4)

    M.Reece 4 0.25 20 1.25 1 0 2 False Start (2), Offensive Holding (1), Illegal Block Above the Waist (1)

    W.Smith 4 0.25 30 1.875 1 0 0 Offensive Holding (4)

    R.Seymour 3 0.188 20 1.25 0 0 2 Defensive Offside (2), Roughing the Passer (1)

    M.Shaughnessy 3 0.188 20 1.25 1 0 2 Encroachment (1), Roughing the Passer (1), Defensive Offside (1)

    M.Mitchell 2 0.125 10 0.625 1 0 0 Defensive Holding (1), Offensive Holding (1)

    A.Curry 2 0.125 30 1.875 0 0 0 Personal Foul (2)

    R.Gordon 2 0.125 20 1.25 0 0 1 Unnecessary Roughness (1), False Start (1)

    K.Clayton 2 0.125 20 1.25 0 0 0 Illegal Block Above the Waist (1), Unnecessary Roughness (1)

    P.Adams 2 0.125 6 0.375 0 0 0 Illegal Use of Hands (1), Offensive Holding (1)

    T.Bergstrom 2 0.125 20 1.25 0 0 0 Offensive Holding (2)

    R.Streater 2 0.125 15 0.938 0 0 1 Illegal Formation (1), Offensive Pass Interference (1)

    J.Olawale 2 0.125 10 0.625 1 0 1 Illegal Block Above the Waist (1), Illegal Shift (1)

    M.Goodson 2 0.125 0 0 0 2 0 Personal Foul (1), Illegal Block Above the Waist (1)

    D.Hagan 1 0.063 10 0.625 0 0 0 Illegal Block Above the Waist (1)

    T.Jones 1 0.063 15 0.938 0 0 0 Face Mask (15 Yards) (1)

    T.Pryor 1 0.063 10 0.625 0 0 0 Illegal Bat (1)

    D.Heyward 1 0.063 0 0 1 0 0 Illegal Touch Pass (1)

    M.Giordano 1 0.063 23 1.438 0 0 0 Defensive Pass Interference (1)

    J.Condo 1 0.063 5 0.313 0 0 1 False Start (1)

    D.Ausberry 1 0.063 4 0.25 0 0 1 False Start (1)

    S.Spencer 1 0.063 18 1.125 0 0 0 Defensive Pass Interference (1)

    T.Goethel 1 0.063 10 0.625 0 0 0 Offensive Holding (1)

    D.Tollefson 1 0.063 0 0 0 0 1 Neutral Zone Infraction (1)

    B.Ross 1 0.063 15 0.938 0 0 0 Unnecessary Roughness (1)

    C.Bilukidi 1 0.063 5 0.313 0 0 1 Defensive Offside (1)

    O.Schmitt 1 0.063 10 0.625 0 0 0 Offensive Pass Interference (1)

    M.Leinart 1 0.063 5 0.313 0 0 1 Delay of Game (1)

    S.Janikowski 1 0.063 0 0 0 0 0 Kickoff Out of Bounds (1)

    R.Bartell 1 0.063 11 0.688 0 0 0 Defensive Pass Interference (1)

    M.Burris 1 0.063 15 0.938 0 0 0 Unnecessary Roughness (1)
    Much appreciated, but those stats on Kelly are clearly incorrect. He had to have had more off sides that two in the beginning game of the season. I have liked Kelly for years, but the time has come to Old Yeller him. Much like Howie Long did to McGlockton, Kelly is now corrupting an understudy in Houston. Draft big Star and allow Kelly's memory to fade. And how bad was the Briesel signing?? Geez....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FROZEN View Post
    Okay so looking at Lebedeffs post he had 3 encroachments and a neutral zone infraction also......that makes more sense
    WOW, so that's a total of SIX presnap penalties by Kelly!! Shaking his head isn't good enough....

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