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    per rotoworld, Allen may be one and done.

    Reggie and mark are discussing with "confidants" what to go with Allen. Cut your losses and bring back Gruden. Those rumors were not b.s

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    I didn't see anything there about Gruden.

    What did I miss?

    Edit: mis-read OP lol

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    One source told Yahoo Sports' Jason Cole that Raiders owner Mark Davis and GM Reggie McKenzie spoke to "confidants" this week about what to do with first-year head coach Dennis Allen.

    Allen has done "little or nothing to inspire confidence" as a rookie coach, as his offensive coordinator hiring of Greg Knapp has proved an ill fit for Oakland's personnel, and Allen's defensive side of the ball has been the Raiders' biggest problem area. Cole seems to hint that Allen could be one-and-done in Oakland, although McKenzie and Davis are still weighing their options.
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    per rotoworld, Allen may be one and done.

    I never said the article said anything about gruden. That's my thoughts and hopes lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by raidersx127 View Post
    I never said the article said anything about gruden. That's my thoughts and hopes lol
    Then it's still speculation and the rumors are just that rumors... To lure Gruden back will hinge on his ability to have the type of input that is left for General Managers and I don't see McKenzie rubber stamping that type of deal... If Allen is one and done we are going to see the same thing that happened under Davis and this franchise will never get out from under this funk mark my words. Not many potential coaches, assistants or whomever are going to want to operate under a one and done mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raidersx127 View Post
    I never said the article said anything about gruden. That's my thoughts and hopes lol
    Yeah,exactly, that's why I edited....I re-read what you wrote

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    everything is playing out like i said it would
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    I assume "confidants" means old Raider legends like Willie Brown, Atkinson, Flores, Madden. Those guys will have Mckenzie's back, but they have no reason to support Allen.
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    per Rotoworld

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    per rotoworld, Allen may be one and done.

    If Allen I'd one and done, it doesn't mean it's the same as the dl Davis era . It means they made a right decision in cutting their losses after making the wrong decision. Allen is not the answer. Why have continuity just for the sake of continuity? If he's not the right guy, then get rid of him. Again, I believe gruden will be back next year. They're not going to get rid of Allen for another unproven guy. They need to get it right this time and it's gruden

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    Quote Originally Posted by HITMAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raidersx127 View Post
    I never said the article said anything about gruden. That's my thoughts and hopes lol
    Then it's still speculation and the rumors are just that rumors... To lure Gruden back will hinge on his ability to have the type of input that is left for General Managers and I don't see McKenzie rubber stamping that type of deal... If Allen is one and done we are going to see the same thing that happened under Davis and this franchise will never get out from under this funk mark my words. Not many potential coaches, assistants or whomever are going to want to operate under a one and done mentality.
    Anyone with a brain would look at us firing Dennis Allen as a result in his poor ability to coach, not as a result in being a one and done franchise. Come on man.

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    Let's all hope Rotoworld is just blowing smoke. We don't need to be looking for a head coach AGAIN, and we definitely don't need Gruden coming back.

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    Getting a new HC will be tricky... There hasn't been any stability with the Raiders for some time.
    I hope they keep Tarver. He did the best he can with what the Raiders had. Basically with no CB, a MLB who rather be off of the team, aging DTs, inconsistent DEs.. at least he got them to play with some passion towards the end.

    Gruden would be all of the fans' dream... but I just don't see him coming back to a situation where he will have to completely rebuild.. Personally, would LOVE the idea... I think he could even turn Pryor into a average/good QB.

    Realistically, I think Reggie will convince Mark to bring in HIS guy. One of them that comes to mind is Moss. Winston Moss might finally get his shot... Personally, I wouldn't mind it. I would love to see them bring in Kevin Greene with him but I doubt Greene will want to leave the Packers. Knapp needs to be fired ASAP. weather or not they keep Pryor, I would like Reggie to bring in an OC who can mold his offense to what the Raiders have, not trying to force the Raiders to play his offense when we don't have the players.

    Either way, I have lost all confidence in Allen as a HC. He got put into the HC role way too quick.

    I say go after Moss again. Win or lose, he will bring some balls and fire to this team.

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    rotoworld is pretty damn reliable.

    if you're reading it on there, theres some truth to it.

    and lets not act like its out of the realm of possibilities bc its not like DA did a good job this year at ANYTHING.

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    Well when u state those rumors were not bs ur sort of implying that Gruden might come back...Reggie already said that was bs

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL 9000 View Post
    Anyone with a brain would look at us firing Dennis Allen as a result in his poor ability to coach, not as a result in being a one and done franchise. Come on man.
    Not true. We're already known in the national media as "The franchise that changes coaches like most people change underwear." Firing DA after one season with this awful roster would merely reinforce that.

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