Sadly, I Think Knapp Will Remain OC For 2013 (Merge)

[SF_Raider_Fan]

Hiring Mariucci marked the beginning of the 49ers decline. He was followed by Erickson, Nolan, and Singletary. One incompetent head coach after another, and about 15 wasted years.
Teams should fire an incompetent head coach mid season, or immediately following his first season. When Davis decides to fire Allen, either in a few weeks time or during next season, signing the next guy to a one year contract is the way to go.

lmao! So awkward to watch.

[kinz]

Hiring Mariucci marked the beginning of the 49ers decline. He was followed by Erickson, Nolan, and Singletary. One incompetent head coach after another, and about 15 wasted years.
Teams should fire an incompetent head coach mid season, or immediately following his first season. When Davis decides to fire Allen, either in a few weeks time or during next season, signing the next guy to a one year contract is the way to go.

I wouldn't even give them half a season, I think as soon as a guy loses two in a row we should fire him and find somebody who can g'dam win.

[Chiefhater]

Reece barely used. Please consider the following link showing him likely to nearly double his rushing and receiving yards from any previous year and explain to me how he is Barely used. I'm not a Knapp fan, but this is a witch hunt, not a rational discussion.

Marcel Reece Stats - Oakland Raiders - ESPN

Good point. Well taken. And I stand corrected in regard to Reece.

But it seems like the only time I notice Reece is when Palmer goes no huddle. It's like Palmer knows how much of threat Reece is, and Knapp doesn't. Maybe I'm letting my dislike for Knapp cloud my opinion? I don't know.

All I know is that this offense hasn't hit any kind of rhythm this year. It's big play or bust with a lot of punts in between.

[kinz]

Good point. Well taken. And I stand corrected in regard to Reece.

But it seems like the only time I notice Reece is when Palmer goes no huddle. It's like Palmer knows how much of threat Reece is, and Knapp doesn't. Maybe I'm letting my dislike for Knapp cloud my opinion? I don't know.

All I know is that this offense hasn't hit any kind of rhythm this year. It's big play or bust with a lot of punts in between.

I think there is a lot to complain about in regard to Knapp. There are some positives also. In my opinion, the root of it all is his mismanaging the running game for most of the year, and a lack of imagination that shows in the red zone.

[Chiefhater]

I think there is a lot to complain about in regard to Knapp. There are some positives also. In my opinion, the root of it all is his mismanaging the running game for most of the year, and a lack of imagination that shows in the red zone.

Agreed.

[Raider Ran]

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[Rainman56]

[Sea Of Hands]

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Careful what you post, Raider Ran. Raider MoFo Jeff might get offended that you used his avatar character and put an AL patch on him. MoFo is not a big Al fan as we all know. All kidding aside, nice work!!!

[Silverblood]

Yes more than likely you'll see the most if not all the coaching staff the same next year. The Raiders are trying to establish some consistancy with the game plan and coaching staff. Knapp, Tarver and Allen will be our coaches next year.

[truepirate1966]

Yes more than likely you'll see the most if not all the coaching staff the same next year. The Raiders are trying to establish some consistancy with the game plan and coaching staff. Knapp, Tarver and Allen will be our coaches next year.

Well, regarding your statement about Knapp coming back,Provided your Krystal ball is not broken and your psychic powers aren't on the blink, I believe this calls for a moment of silence, because all hopes of the Raiders having any success in the 2013 season, has just died. Please folks, out of respect for the death of the Raiders next season, please, don't talk and don't post anything for the next 5 minutes( just kidding silverblood) I actually agree with most of your post just not 100% on whether Knapp and our current special teams coach will be back next season.

[B. anthracis]

It is questionable whether DA is qualified to be a head coach of a high school team.
I don't mind Mckenzie (or Davis) taking a chance on a head coach with no experience, but do it the sensible way. The Raiders might have offered DA (or some other long shot guy), a one year contract. This way if the new coach proves incompetent, he can be fired mid season without the Raders taking a big financial hit.
It was incredibly stupid for Mckenzie (and Davis) to offer a long shot like Allen a multi year, multi million dollar contract.

Yep. That's what Al would have done. People need to remember that while Al did a lot of things wrong he didn't do everything wrong. For example, when he took a chance on Gruden he got him for cheap. Where he went wrong was not renewing his contract for a lot more money early on but that's beside the point. Allen should have been offered a cheap 3 year deal with exercise options, just like Al used to do. If the guy would have turned out to be great then tear up the old contract and renegotiate a new one commensurate with the team's performance.

I didn't like it when Hue was fired but when it came to hiring a new HC, I did like the idea of giving a young guy a shot rather than a retread. So to me, Dennis Allen seemed like a good hire at the time. But the contract was way out of whack.

ETA: A one year contract is out of the question. No one would ever sign a deal like that. It has to be multiple years.

[ShadowRage41]

This year to me is just done. it seems like the Raiders are waving the white flag, or playing for another hand to be dealt. At this point I am indifferent to Knapp. but IMHO he is not a good o coordinator/play caller. and if he is here and struggles next year? like the people who so vehemently defended Jamarcus Russell. Many people will have the unenviable task of defending him yet again next year... I also believe Knapp will be here next season and not because he has done a damn thing to merit it, but just for P.R reasons and league perception. I hope I am wrong but if he is here next season and the offense struggles like this again? he needs to be gone and quick. JMO Like I said I hope I am wrong, I hope it is like many here vehemently maintain. a change of personnel is all that is needed. but sadly Knapp's past record is against that. Suppose we will have to wait and see. Not sure the fan base will be so patient with another season of a meltdown of this proportion. They damn well better improve and not regress yet again. If they do? I do not want to hear all the excuses and apologies. people will have to bite the bullet and admit they were wrong. just like i WILL DO IF THE TEAM IS IMPROVED AND SUCCESSFUL.

[B. anthracis]

Suppose we will have to wait and see. Not sure the fan base will be so patient with another season of a meltdown of this proportion. They damn well better improve and not regress yet again. If they do? I do not want to hear all the excuses and apologies. people will have to bite the bullet and admit they were wrong. just like i WILL DO IF THE TEAM IS IMPROVED AND SUCCESSFUL.

It won't happen. I remember back during the Art Shell II days, people backed him until the bitter end and even expressed outrage when he was fired. There's only one person I know of for sure that finally admitted they were wrong. He's still here but I won't mention the name. The rest just kind of never brought it up again and the people who were right (ahem) just let it go for the sake of not being jerks.

When it comes to being a sports fan there are no prizes for being right and no penalties for being wrong.

[MadBomber24]

This year to me is just done. it seems like the Raiders are waving the white flag, or playing for another hand to be dealt. At this point I am indifferent to Knapp. but IMHO he is not a good o coordinator/play caller. and if he is here and struggles next year? like the people who so vehemently defended Jamarcus Russell. Many people will have the unenviable task of defending him yet again next year... I also believe Knapp will be here next season and not because he has done a damn thing to merit it, but just for P.R reasons and league perception. I hope I am wrong but if he is here next season and the offense struggles like this again? he needs to be gone and quick. JMO Like I said I hope I am wrong, I hope it is like many here vehemently maintain. a change of personnel is all that is needed. but sadly Knapp's past record is against that. Suppose we will have to wait and see. Not sure the fan base will be so patient with another season of a meltdown of this proportion. They damn well better improve and not regress yet again. If they do? I do not want to hear all the excuses and apologies. people will have to bite the bullet and admit they were wrong. just like i WILL DO IF THE TEAM IS IMPROVED AND SUCCESSFUL.

There is a difference between defending Knapp and saying he isn't at fault for how this season has gone. No one I have seen has said Knapp is great or even good, simply that he was dealt a terrible hand to begin with. If he stays and we don't improve then all those who are supposedly defending him because we don't go around saying things like "knapp sucks" will be saying he needs to go. Some just don't think you dump a coach (any coach) after one year. Now if there are other issues that go on behind the scenes that none of us have the ability to know about then that's a different issue all together, but if that is happening then its on DA and RM to deal with it. I haven't heard of anything to suggest there could be a rift in the coaches though so no way to speculate on that.

[MadBomber24]

It won't happen. I remember back during the Art Shell II days, people backed him until the bitter end and even expressed outrage when he was fired. There's only one person I know of for sure that finally admitted they were wrong. He's still here but I won't mention the name. The rest just kind of never brought it up again and the people who were right (ahem) just let it go for the sake of not being jerks.

When it comes to being a sports fan there are no prizes for being right and no penalties for being wrong.

Those who were wrong? give me a break. I didn't like the firing of Shell but it had nothing to do with what kind of job he did. IMO it didn't matter who the coach was as long as AD ran things the way he did. So no I wasn't happy about Shell being fired, I wasn't happy about Kiffin being fired, I wasn't happy about Cable being fired, and going back further I wasn't happy about Norv being fired either. Again it isn't that I liked them as HCs it's that I knew nothing was going to change as long as Al ran the show and that the coach didn't matter much. Im hoping that has changed with the new regime but we shall see over time if that's really the case.