A couple of questions about Ro and Peyton.

**S&BNation** · 08-22-2012, 09:57 PM

I was just thinking about a couple of things today and was hoping that someone might have more info. than I've been able to dig up. 1)I love the way this Defense is starting to look, but I am worried about Rolando McClain's felony charges/court date. I havent heard anything on his re trial or when or what Goodell will impose on him. 2)I was reading on Twitter today that the Broncos were concerned with Peyton because he was having issues throwing passes to his right at distances over 10 yards. Does anyone have anymore info on either of these questions?

**Big Chance** · 08-22-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by S&BNation

I was just thinking about a couple of things today and was hoping that someone might have more info. than I've been able to dig up. 1)I love the way this Defense is starting to look, but I am worried about Rolando McClain's felony charges/court date. I havent heard anything on his re trial or when or what Goodell will impose on him. 2)I was reading on Twitter today that the Broncos were concerned with Peyton because he was having issues throwing passes to his right at distances over 10 yards. Does anyone have anymore info on either of these questions?

If I'm not mistaken, they were only misdemeanor charges. They'll probably keep pushing his trial date back until sometime during the season. Chances are he'll plea out to a lesser charge and get a hefty fine and/or probation. As far as Goddell, has Ro been in trouble in the past? Is this his first offense? If so, I couldn't see the penalty being too harsh....

**DSOTM** · 08-22-2012, 10:08 PM

Correct me if im wrong but Ro is up sh1t creek without a paddle

**S&BNation** · 08-22-2012, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Big Chance

If I'm not mistaken, they were only misdemeanor charges. They'll probably keep pushing his trial date back until sometime during the season. Chances are he'll plea out to a lesser charge and get a hefty fine and/or probation. As far as Goddell, has Ro been in trouble in the past? Is this his first offense? If so, I couldn't see the penalty being too harsh....

Thanks Big. I would just hate for this team to start gelling and then to get screwed. I hope he has learned from his stupidity and has a great year along with the Raiders!

**MadBomber24** · 08-22-2012, 10:09 PM

Can't answer about the McClain part but I thought I saw somewhere a while back that said this probably won't be an issue until after the season

I saw an article on either ESPN or CNNSI today about manning being more comfortable throwing to his left and having issues to his right but of course they down played it and said Manning is a warrior and will adjust. But if this is true (and I haven't seen more than a few highlights of him so far ) then Manning and the Broncos will be in real trouble most likely. I don't see how a QB can overcome not being able to throw to one side of the field.

Originally Posted by S&BNation

I was just thinking about a couple of things today and was hoping that someone might have more info. than I've been able to dig up. 1)I love the way this Defense is starting to look, but I am worried about Rolando McClain's felony charges/court date. I havent heard anything on his re trial or when or what Goodell will impose on him. 2)I was reading on Twitter today that the Broncos were concerned with Peyton because he was having issues throwing passes to his right at distances over 10 yards. Does anyone have anymore info on either of these questions?

**OAKR8RPHX** · 08-22-2012, 10:18 PM

I think someone already posted, can't remember who, but his court date is in January. He will probably plead down and not have to serve 180 days, more like 60 which would have him back before OTA's and minicamp. As for what Goody-Two-Shoes or the team does will have to wait for the outcome of the trial.

I could see a 2 game suspension since it is his first offence. Then again maybe they will settle out of court cause I could see this going away with a little payday from McClain to the victim as this could be all he wants anyways, some $$$.

As for forehead boy don't have a clue or give a f#*k. I just want to make sure the D shows everyone especially the Donks how crappy their O-line is and how immobile of a QB he is. Sack lunches all day long hopefully.

**Daggerman** · 08-22-2012, 10:27 PM

From what I've seen of Peyton in the preseason so far, both the arm speed of his throwing motion and the velocity of his balls seem slower than what we've become accustomed to. His arm strength on the Colts was always a little underrated; he was never in Stafford/Cuter/Vick territory, but he had a very strong arm. I just don't see it anymore. Sure, he'll "adjust" and still be pretty good for the Broncos, but the Broncos aren't paying for "pretty good," and "pretty good" won't be good enough to mask their deficiencies to the point of making them a serious contender.

**Dj Diesel** · 08-22-2012, 11:00 PM

I heard about this as well but they brought up a good point that manning is so good at reading the defense that he will likely make adjustments if he sees the defense favoring one side...i guess we'll see next lreseason game

**regret** · 08-22-2012, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by Daggerman

From what I've seen of Peyton in the preseason so far, both the arm speed of his throwing motion and the velocity of his balls seem slower than what we've become accustomed to. His arm strength on the Colts was always a little underrated; he was never in Stafford/Cuter/Vick territory, but he had a very strong arm. I just don't see it anymore. Sure, he'll "adjust" and still be pretty good for the Broncos, but the Broncos aren't paying for "pretty good," and "pretty good" won't be good enough to mask their deficiencies to the point of making them a serious contender.

yeah, I expect he'll be like Joe Montana when he went to the Chiefs: good, but clearly past his prime, and Manning might be even worse off because I don't think Denver is in a position to protect him. Suffice to say, a Peyton Manning who cannot deliver the ball where it needs to be when it needs to be there doesn't scare me half as much as the guy we saw in Indy for a decade.

**Chewy316** · 08-23-2012, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Daggerman

From what I've seen of Peyton in the preseason so far, both the arm speed of his throwing motion and the velocity of his balls seem slower than what we've become accustomed to. His arm strength on the Colts was always a little underrated; he was never in Stafford/Cuter/Vick territory, but he had a very strong arm. I just don't see it anymore. Sure, he'll "adjust" and still be pretty good for the Broncos, but the Broncos aren't paying for "pretty good," and "pretty good" won't be good enough to mask their deficiencies to the point of making them a serious contender.

Dude hasn't been throwing good balls all pre-season. Lots of em are coming out like ducks, they're not tight spirals, seems like on occasion that the ball either tends to float or just takes forever to reach the receiver. This is exactly what I expected of him. He's not going to be the Manning of old. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either buying into the media hype about Manning from ESPN, NFLN etc, or they don't understand the anatomy/physiology/pathophysiology of the neck and hence are naturally underestimating the severity of his injury.

**djh_raider** · 08-23-2012, 01:19 AM

Rolando McClain's arraignment date is the 29th August. We should know the trial date then. As per an earlier article, trial dates in Morgan County are usually set for 9-12 months after the arraignment date.

Roger Goodall will not act until after the legal process is complete. McClain is only up on a misdemeanor charge so even if found guilty I doubt he will do jail time unless the judge wants to make an example of him. Also, as it is his first offence, any punishment from Goodall would/should be minimal. And this is if McClain is found guilty.

As for Peyton Manning, while the arm strength may not be what it once was I still believe he will be effective a bit like Montana was when he joined the Chiefs. A decent OC was plan around what ever shortcomings may be there and Manning has the experience to pick defenses apart.

**TonyHighRoller** · 08-23-2012, 09:33 AM

I didn't know Peyton was having issues with his throwing

**MileHighRaider** · 08-23-2012, 09:47 AM

As I've posted several times before, the issue with Manning, IMHO isn't as much his arm strength or issues throwing to the right (both appear to be legitimate, though not critical issues). To me (opinion), it's a question of how much abuse his body takes between now and - say - the 4th quarter of the year.

I doubt, and wouldn't wish upon him, serious season-ending injury. But he'll take a pounding with that line, and if he's already less than 100%, I don't see it getting appreciably better as the season progresses.

He's still a good QB, but he's not the old Peyton Manning; and he's on a team that is beatable.

**SLVR and Black** · 08-23-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by TonyHighRoller

I didn't know Peyton was having issues with his throwing

It came out yesterday on NFLN that he was having issues throwing to his right -- seems that whenever he attempts anything over 10 yards or so the ball comes out wobbly. I like Manning and I wanted him to go out on top (not at the expense of the Raiders though!) but that doesn't seem to be in the cards at this point. Then again, who the heck knows what the future holds.

**Da Swami** · 08-23-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by OAKR8RPHX

I think someone already posted, can't remember who, but his court date is in January. He will probably plead down and not have to serve 180 days, more like 60 which would have him back before OTA's and minicamp. As for what Goody-Two-Shoes or the team does will have to wait for the outcome of the trial.

I could see a 2 game suspension since it is his first offence. Then again maybe they will settle out of court cause I could see this going away with a little payday from McClain to the victim as this could be all he wants anyways, some $$$.

As for forehead boy don't have a clue or give a f#*k. I just want to make sure the D shows everyone especially the Donks how crappy their O-line is and how immobile of a QB he is. Sack lunches all day long hopefully.

How does one settle a criminal case out of court?

Also, I don't see a civil case springing up from this.

There are no punitive damages in play making McClains net worth irrelevant.

DA's dont drop cases because the victim agrees to a "payday".

This is going to trial as the victim has no power to make this just go away like that.