New Heyward-bey highlight

**ottomatic1** · 07-21-2012, 07:40 PM

Another way you can tell DHB has made it is DarkLordAlDavis hasn't posted a picture of some sort of crustacean in this thread

**Evil Empire** · 07-21-2012, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by mike taylor

LMAO sorry I don't see DHB as an all-pro and next Cliff Branch like some of you do...

I don't see him as Cliff Branch or an all pro either. Can we get back to the topic now?

**Evil Empire** · 07-21-2012, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by N.O.RaiDaNation

Once again, no need to be a douche. We're all Raiders fans here. Though this has nothing to do with the thread directly, I find myself wondering if you have ever played football yourself..and if you have, what position.

All you have to do is read his post. No one was comparing him to Irvin or Monk ass players. Sorry if it's harsh in your eyes, but it's completely true. How many people have tried to clarify this for him thus far?

Oh, wait, now I see why you were taking up for him. OTF pointed out that your reading comprehension on the matter was similarly lacking. So how does that make me a "douche?"

**Evil Empire** · 07-21-2012, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by dmauke

First of all it's Irvin.. not Irving, and I'm only correcting you because it's obvious that you aren't making a spelling error, you really don't know what his name is.

Catching the ball close to the body is not body catching, body catching is trapping the ball against your body with your forearms. You are too young to have seen Monk and Irvin play, or you would know these guys had good hands. DHB still double clutches way too much, and that's what people are seeing.

You are being overly defensive when you start throwing insults like whining, haters, and super critics. There are no rules in any thread that says everyone has to make positive comments. This is a discussion forum, not a prep rally.

Any pro athlete is going to get criticism, deal with it.

Did you seriously go there? Since you did, you probably need to adjust your tim foil helment a bit because you are getting horrible reception. For your information, genius, I saw most of Art Monk's career along with Joe Washington, Mark Mosely, Joe Theisman, Charles Mann, John Riggins, Dexter Manly, Rus Grimm, and all the rest of the Redskins of that era. As a matter of fact, I am a VA resident who watched the Raiders smoke the Redskins in '84. Now, if you really could read minds through the computer, you would have known all of that.

As far as you celebrating my typo, it's a obviously pathetic attempt to score some cheaps points in a debate you lost by a landslide. Oops, you bad. Have a great evening.

**dmauke** · 07-21-2012, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Evil Empire

Did you seriously go there? Since you did, you probably need to adjust your tim foil helment a bit because you are getting horrible reception. For your information, genius, I saw most of Art Monk's career along with Joe Washington, Mark Mosely, Joe Theisman, Charles Mann, John Riggins, Dexter Manly, Rus Grimm, and all the rest of the Redskins of that era. As a matter of fact, I am a VA resident who watched the Raiders smoke the Redskins in '84. Now, if you really could read minds through the computer, you would have known all of that.

As far as you celebrating my typo, it's a obviously pathetic attempt to score some cheaps points in a debate you lost by a landslide. Oops, you bad. Have a great evening.

lol, you have obviously bested me in a battle of wits, however you are in dire need of an enema.

**raiderLUVjen** · 07-21-2012, 09:39 PM

Thanks for posting the video!!

I can't wait to see DHB on the field with all of his teammates...Healthy!!

**Da Swami** · 07-21-2012, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by N.O.RaiDaNation

Man, I've never seen more body catches in a highlight film in my life. Im not hating on the video-its good-I've just never seen a good WR use his body so much. I hope he continues to improve this year with actually using his hands to catch the ball.

So what?

James Lofton is in the HOF and he did that his whole career.

**N.O.RaiDaNation** · 07-22-2012, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Evil Empire

All you have to do is read his post. No one was comparing him to Irvin or Monk ass players. Sorry if it's harsh in your eyes, but it's completely true. How many people have tried to clarify this for him thus far?

Oh, wait, now I see why you were taking up for him. OTF pointed out that your reading comprehension on the matter was similarly lacking. So how does that make me a "douche?"

Just re-read your posts on this thread and notice the way you talk down to people. That will never be an effective form of argument; it doesn't make you tough to sit behind your computer and type. The same goes for OTF

I think we all agree DHB is no Irvin or Monk. Irvin and Monk were brought up to illustrate the point that good WRs do SOMETIMES use their body. I get that, but these guys were also able to use their hands to go up and get the ball when necessary. At this point, DHB has been shaky,yet improving, in this regard. Here's to continued improvement

I'm done with this thread.

**DaHero75** · 07-22-2012, 11:01 AM

It's not letting me view the video from my iPhone for some reason.... Can someone help me out n post a URL so I can try n open it up on safari

**signal** · 07-22-2012, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by DaHero75

It's not letting me view the video from my iPhone for some reason.... Can someone help me out n post a URL so I can try n open it up on safari

Ultimate Darrius Heyward-Bey Highlights [HD] - YouTube

Tried to post the url but well, the site turns it automatically into a link. Sorry.

**Da Swami** · 07-22-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by signal

Ultimate Darrius Heyward-Bey Highlights [HD] - YouTube

Tried to post the url but well, the site turns it automatically into a link. Sorry.

As long as he continues to get the kind of respect CBs in that video were showing him, the hands/body thing will be irrelevant.

CBs played 10 yards off of him all year in 2011.

That tells me what DCs think of DHB.

**signal** · 07-22-2012, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Da Swami

As long as he continues to get the kind of respect CBs in that video were showing him, the hands/body thing will be irrelevant.

CBs played 10 yards off of him all year in 2011.

That tells me what DCs think of DHB.

His combination of size, strength and speed makes him rather a daunting figure to square off at the line. Plus, Aso worked with him when he was with the Raiders giving him tips how to burn defenders who play him tight at the line. I expect that defenders will continue to play off which might be something the new scheme will exploit even further.

**dmauke** · 07-22-2012, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by signal

His combination of size, strength and speed makes him rather a daunting figure to square off at the line. Plus, Aso worked with him when he was with the Raiders giving him tips how to burn defenders who play him tight at the line. I expect that defenders will continue to play off which might be something the new scheme will exploit even further.

They are going to have to play off the line on most of our receivers or they are going to get burnt. Carson likes to throw deep, always has.

**DaHero75** · 07-22-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by signal

Ultimate Darrius Heyward-Bey Highlights [HD] - YouTube

Tried to post the url but well, the site turns it automatically into a link. Sorry.

Damn.... Thanks anyway... Computers down so I only got my phone for now...lol

**OTF** · 07-22-2012, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by N.O.RaiDaNation

Just re-read your posts on this thread and notice the way you talk down to people. That will never be an effective form of argument; it doesn't make you tough to sit behind your computer and type. The same goes for OTF

I think we all agree DHB is no Irvin or Monk. Irvin and Monk were brought up to illustrate the point that good WRs do SOMETIMES use their body. I get that, but these guys were also able to use their hands to go up and get the ball when necessary. At this point, DHB has been shaky,yet improving, in this regard. Here's to continued improvement

I'm done with this thread.

You criticize a player and when your opinion is criticized in the same manner, you can't handle it and call me a douche.
You put words in my mouth saying I compared DHB to Irvin & Monk while in reality all I did was present video evidence that there are HOF WRs doing the same thing. You said "I've just never seen a good WR use his body so much." it is obvious you never watched them play.
You point out how you played high school football and coach high school football and question whether I have ever played football then call me a douche again. Take your experience and go apply for a professional job coaching WRs and you will see that the Pros, like me could give a Sh*t about your opinion.
This is a message board where people give their opinion and if you can't handle people not agreeing with you and it makes you start calling people "douches" then you might not be mature enough to post your opinion. Calling people a "douche" will never be an effective form of argument; it doesn't make you tough to sit behind your computer and type
I don't give a damn if DHB pulled his pants down and caught every ball with his A$$ cheeks! If he is putting up numbers and doing his part to help us win, that is all I care about.