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    Quote Originally Posted by KrimzonR8R View Post
    If Palmer feels confident and can play in this offense as well as Schaub did, the AFC West is in for some problems. Even if DMC goes down and we have Benson and Goodson backing him up, I can still see Palmer tearing up some secondaries as long as he makes better decisions. If DMC stays healthy, watch out...this offense is gonna be the wrecking ball of the West. With all the speed outside and the running game being able to gash defenses my only real concerns are at TE and having a possession WR to move the chains in a WCO. I think our best weapon for that could end up being Reece as most defenses don't really have an extra safety or LB that can cover him.

    The biggest factor in winning though is gonna be our defense. Can they keep other teams' offenses off the field? Can they stop making mistakes that cost the game? Because it won't matter how good Palmer and Company are if they end up in shootouts or have to keep scoring to stay in games.
    Good post. I also think that the performance of the defense will go a long way in determining how many INTs Palmer throws. If Palmer is often placed in a position of coming off the bench cold (after sitting watching the defense struggle through Loooooong offensive drives) trying to play catch-up - I can see his INTs becoming a problem.

    That said, my hope is that Palmer is resurrected to the point that he is considered a late bloomer - and that his next few years will be his best. I know - not likely. But he will be playing in a system that he has never played in before (at the NFL level at least). Most see this as a HUGE drawback and it just might be. But on the other hand, it may also unleash something in him, well, we have not seen yet. I am really hoping that is the case and he surprises the hell out of the NFL. Sometimes you can teach new tricks to old dogs - hence late bloomers. So I really am not looking forward to seeing him return to his elite self of some five or six years ago. I am looking forward to seeing a new reborn Palmer who is not a pocket sitting passer but someone who is moving around in the WCO picking apart defenses.

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    In looking back at Palmers' Bengal career, when he had a decent to good running game he had his best years, Knapp may end up being a really good thing for Palmer.
    Calm him down, and keep some of the pressure off with the ZBS running game.

    If you look at John Elway's numbers, he played his best football after he was 32 and the Broncos put in the WCO.
    Many other guys played their best at an older age as well like Plunk and Gannon.
    Hell, Drew Brees just had one of the best season in NFL history and was 32 years old.

    Why can't Palmers' age and experience be an advantage for the next few years?
    I bet he is really motivated to leave the NFL on a high note, and he is on the right team to do it considering the players we have around him.
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    I like Palmer. Good article bro, 60% is pretty good. This offseason will help everyone and I hope Dmac doesn't get hurt again cuz Palmer didn't have Dmac once he was our QB. Tha will add to the mix. with the addition of all the WR 100% healthy and the 2 new rookie stand outs, I think we will improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho Raider View Post
    Palmer has had more success before comeing to the Raiders than Gannon or Plunkett had. And he has more POTENTIAL than either one. And a blind guy could see that Mirer or Collins names don't belong in the same discussion.
    Wake us all up when palmer is an NFL mvp since according to u he had "more potential " than gannon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoClapsPlease View Post
    Wake us all up when palmer is an NFL mvp since according to u he had "more potential " than gannon.
    Palmer did win AFC player of the year in 2005, 67.8 completion %, 32TDs and a QB rating of 101.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    Palmer did win AFC player of the year in 2005, 67.8 completion %, 32TDs and a QB rating of 101.1.
    Yea and we are still waiting 7 years later for that type of play again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoClapsPlease View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    Palmer did win AFC player of the year in 2005, 67.8 completion %, 32TDs and a QB rating of 101.1.
    Yea and we are still waiting 7 years later for that type of play again.
    You were acting like he had never had a good season, those numbers were good enough to win an MVP in some years.
    I don't think it's out of the question for him to have a QB rating in the 95 range, considering the players around him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    Palmer did win AFC player of the year in 2005, 67.8 completion %, 32TDs and a QB rating of 101.1.
    shouldnt waste your time..you are debating with a guy who cant see his potential for our team...interestingly though he argued till his
    last breath that jalardus was going to make a comeback and make purple drink the offcial soft drink for the NFL...i can even dig you up a post about him claiming a team like the patriots was going to pick him up because of his "potential" and that we would regret cutting him...this was all because he hired some life coach who ended up firing himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    You were acting like he had never had a good season, those numbers were good enough to win an MVP in some years.
    I don't think it's out of the question for him to have a QB rating in the 95 range, considering the players around him.
    Who said he never had a good season? What's that got to do with him "having more potential than gannon" based on what? Sounded more like an offhand statement more than anything. How does one have more potential than a league mvp, but hasn't played at a high level in 7 years? Excuse me if my statement isn't logical. You don't bring up "potential" for 32 year old veterans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho Raider View Post
    Palmer has had more success before comeing to the Raiders than Gannon or Plunkett had. And he has more POTENTIAL than either one. And a blind guy could see that Mirer or Collins names don't belong in the same discussion.
    His point still remains entirely valid. Plunkett and Gannon defied heavy odds against them to become successful here. Banking on that to happen again is a risky decision.

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    A QB is only as good as his best receiver.

    I keep looking for Larry Fitzgerald but I just can't seem to find him. Gonna be a long season...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoClapsPlease View Post
    Who said he never had a good season? What's that got to do with him "having more potential than gannon" based on what? Sounded more like an offhand statement more than anything. How does one have more potential than a league mvp, but hasn't played at a high level in 7 years? Excuse me if my statement isn't logical. You don't bring up "potential" for 32 year old veterans.
    Why do i get the feeling that Palmer could throw 40 TDs and lead us to a 12-4 record and you would still be downplaying the guy?
    Your already on record as saying that anybody expecting a good season for the offense this year is just living a pipe dream, well the seasons not that for away, it's gone be fun to see whos right.
    Im predicting Palmer will have better numbers than his career average of a 86 QB rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    Why do i get the feeling that Palmer could throw 40 TDs and lead us to a 12-4 record and you would still be downplaying the guy?
    Your already on record as saying that anybody expecting a good season for the offense this year is just living a pipe dream, well the seasons not that for away, it's gone be fun to see whos right.
    Im predicting Palmer will have better numbers than his career average of a 86 QB rating.
    First of all I would be thrilled if he played like tom Brady.

    Secondly, how am I downplaying him? Has he played at a high level recently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoClapsPlease View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SLVR&BLK View Post
    Why do i get the feeling that Palmer could throw 40 TDs and lead us to a 12-4 record and you would still be downplaying the guy?
    Your already on record as saying that anybody expecting a good season for the offense this year is just living a pipe dream, well the seasons not that for away, it's gone be fun to see whos right.
    Im predicting Palmer will have better numbers than his career average of a 86 QB rating.
    First of all I would be thrilled if he played like tom Brady.

    Secondly, how am I downplaying him? Has he played at a high level recently?
    He's played good enough to win, yet your predicting a failure for this year.
    Do you think he will play worse this year for some reason?

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    If he played good enough to win, well why didn't he win then? Your answer makes no sense.

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