Not gonna say Knapp will lead this team to a top 10 offense, but really, when we had Bruce ****in' Gradkowski at QB instead of Ja****face, we actually were able to move the ball. And we have 10x's the QB in Palmer and a legit threat at running back. To say we're screwed because we Palmer doesn't fit the style of offense is stupid. No way we're going full West Coast, or we wouldn't have brought back Saunders. We're going to play to the strengths of the offense.
We have every right to expect a very good offense and an improved defense.
Hue is a good OC but bad HC period. Dude was way in over his head when he didn't have Al to fall back on.
who mentioned routes, swami?
is that all there is to an offense?
by your logic, a WR can just get plugged in anywhere he wants
well if your logic made any bit of sense, zack miller would be BEASTING in that brand new WCO system he's in in seattle
oh? he isnt? damn.
those damn dolphins gave up on wes welker, im sure he'd be a HOF player playing for them also. oh? no?
i thought so. settle down swami, i dont want to hear that crap tonight.
The only reason any of the predictions are being made is because......
We can't go 11-5 or 10-6 or win the division because that means Manning won't win...Get it? see how this works now? if Manning is not in the division then these predictions would be entirely different. Anything that goes down in the media concerning this division will be influenced by Manning and Manning alone.
I say Manning will have a bad season, remember what made Denver survive was the running game especially from the QB spot. That O-line is regressing and rapidly. Manning will be a sitting duck...
Vick Pro Bowls 2004/2005
Thanks for the thread OP. I think we'll be fine.
Blowing people out of the water yes Under Marriuci and Moringweg Knapp stepped into something already established, Hue didn't have the continuity with anyone here like Knapp, and he didn't have anything established beforehand to hand off to him like Knapp in SF.
WHats more those teams Knapp coached had a lot of offensive talent already realized oppose to the raw potenial Hue had to mold and form, and without a lenghty tenrue here it had to be done on the fly
VIck under Knapp was a 1 read to Algie Crumpler or run QB at that time, the league didn't know how to deal with him, never saw anything like him before. Any pundit, Jaws, Mayock, Chris Landry or whoever you wanna name thats without predjudice would tell you Vick has become a true QB under Reid.
Scored 280 points (17.5/g), 25th of 32 in the NFL among other things
Whats more Hasslesbacks best year quality wise was under Holmgren when they went to the superbowl, and Hassleback's most memorable perfomance the last 3 years was agains't the saints in the playoffs, Jeremy Bates was the coordinator when he did that
When Knapp had a top offense the defenses didn't really play cover 2 at that time, fire zone blitzes, the defensive rotation has changed. Knapp's last tenure in seattle he may not have gotten that memo.
Knapps best offense was handed off to him. Thankfully Hue is leaving Knapp a top 10 offense along with a hungry QB like Palmer. It might be the only chance for this season
because Knapp, the game past him by as a coordinator my man
He set a new 49ers' team record with 4,278 passing yards in the 2000 season.
9th in passing yards
Tied for 2nd in TD's
11th in passing yards
11th in TD's
15th in passing yards
13th in TD's
When did I use those derogatory terms about Greg Knapp
I dont need to trash Knapp, . Im not going along with company line talk just because RM did it it must be good right...... right? its yet to be proven
What Knapp did was keep the ball rolling for an already strong offense he inherited true he developed Garcia, a key component, but hardly the same as what Hue did.
Also as this is a right now league I wan't a coordinator who understands how defenses are attacking today.
Where obviously not going to agree
Ultimately its not about Hue vs Knapp, its about Knapp being right for the raiders, if we had an experience offensive coach who was versed in the system who could oversee Knapp like Mooch then maybe, but when Knapp has been on his own overseeing the whole thing hes struggled, thats whats being asked of him here. His History and all factors considerd doesn't inspire confidence
That's not my logic at all.
Not even close!
My points flew right over your head and I never said anything like that at all.
I asked for a reason why a pro cant adjust to a different scheme.
Your analogy is flawed and not analogous in any way.
The claim was that a square peg was being forced in to a round hole.
What does that mean? SPECIFICALLY? That's just drivel from a guy who is trying to sound like he knows more than he actually does. That's all that is.
Why cant our players play in the WCO?
I merely used the WRs as ONE EXAMPLE of a breakdown you could give me if there was merit to your hackneyed cliche. However, from your response, it is clear you think the ENTIRE unit will have trouble operating the WCO. Educate us dummies then on what" forcing a square peg in to a round hole" actually means.Tell me specifically, in football terminology, what the claim is based on.
What a load of crap.
I asked for reasons and the questions were ducked.
What is it about our WRs abilities that tells you they cant play in the WCO? What do you see that we don't? Why are they "bad fits" for the WCO? Why cant our O line play in a zone read scheme? Why are they "bad fits"? In a WCO that relies on short QB drops? Once again, what do you see? Is it a leverage thing? What? Why can't CP play in the scheme? The scheme relies on high percentage passes so that should reduce the INT's so many fear and doesn't require a rocket arm. Are you saying he doesn't have the velocity to make the passes in a WCO? Why is he a bad fit? Why can't our backs hit the hole off the cut block if the O linemen beat their men off the ball? Why are they a bad fit?
Give me something.....
Don't just tell me I am wrong, tell me why in detail.
All you can do is repeat meaningless mantras.
Once again, its a load of crap and nothing else.
Why else would you duck the questions and change the context?
Give me something Coach!
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