Jaws QB Countdown Palmer ranked

[regret]

Whew, long fix, but it had to be done. You welcome bro.

Oh man, I'd forgotten about Cable sighing resignedly and asking for the two plays JaMarcus could run. **** that was priceless.

[NoClapsPlease]

I didn't conveniently leave anything out because I never said yards per attempt was the most important attribute for a QB. I brought it up because Schaub and Palmer were top 5 in that category. If Knapp closely follows the Texans offense, which I am guessing he will, Palmer and his ability to throw deep should fit the scheme perfectly.

why would he follow kubiak's offense????



greg knapp has his own offense bro

prepare to score 13 points a game with explosively conservative play calling

he was the only WCO OC available so i guess we had to roll with it to get it installed and then upgrade later

knapp is a good positional coach, but he has absolutely no record of ever being a good OC at any point of time in his career

hate to say it, but i wish Hue was still here, then we wouldnt have to worry about the offense at all. pick up a good DC along with hue, we'd be good to go

but its politics at the end of the day

hopefully we win 6 or 7 games

i'm thinking 4 right about now.

[StickShift]

why would he follow kubiak's offense????

Greg Knapp didn't run the cut block scheme when he was OC of the 49ers in the early 2000's, he picked that up in Atlanta and has used it ever since. Coaches evolve. Why was Carson Palmer watching cutups of the Texans offense during the offseason? Why was Matt Leinart brought in to help Palmer learn the offense? Has Leinart ever been a QB under Knapp as OC? We also signed Brisiel and hired the Texans OL coach.

but he has absolutely no record of ever being a good OC at any point of time in his career

49ers offense under Knapp (better than anything Hue Jackson has ever done as OC)

2001
Ranked 4th overall
Ranked 14th pass
Ranked 2nd rush
Ranked 3rd scoring

2002
Ranked 8th overall
Ranked 14th pass
Ranked 6th rush
Ranked 13th scoring

2003
Ranked 5th overall
Ranked 10th pass
Ranked 5th rush
Ranked 9th scoring

[coogi]

Greg Knapp didn't run the cut block scheme when he was OC of the 49ers in the early 2000's, he picked that up in Atlanta and has used it ever since. Coaches evolve. Why was Carson Palmer watching cutups of the Texans offense during the offseason? Why was Matt Leinart brought in to help Palmer learn the offense? Has Leinart ever been a QB under Knapp as OC? We also signed Brisiel and hired the Texans OL coach.


49ers offense under Knapp (better than anything Hue Jackson has ever done as OC)

2001
Ranked 4th overall
Ranked 14th pass
Ranked 2nd rush
Ranked 3rd scoring

2002
Ranked 8th overall
Ranked 14th pass
Ranked 6th rush
Ranked 13th scoring

2003
Ranked 5th overall
Ranked 10th pass
Ranked 5th rush
Ranked 9th scoring

game, set, match....

[regret]

But the 49ers had good players, that's cheating! If he were any good, he would have turned a pile of crap (JR) into gold.

[ecnirp]

why would he follow kubiak's offense????



greg knapp has his own offense bro

prepare to score 13 points a game with explosively conservative play calling

he was the only WCO OC available so i guess we had to roll with it to get it installed and then upgrade later

knapp is a good positional coach, but he has absolutely no record of ever being a good OC at any point of time in his career

hate to say it, but i wish Hue was still here, then we wouldnt have to worry about the offense at all. pick up a good DC along with hue, we'd be good to go

but its politics at the end of the day

hopefully we win 6 or 7 games

i'm thinking 4 right about now.

[JoeKiev]

But the 49ers had good players, that's cheating! If he were any good, he would have turned a pile of crap (JR) into gold.

I know you are being sarcastic here, but if I remember correctly, Jamarcus did make that one good throw to Murphy for a touchdown that almost won us the game against San Diego a few years back.

When you consider that throw, it is plain to see that Jamarcus had the talent and it was simply the lack of the OC, the HC, the players and the front office/fans that made Jruss a failure. Deal with it.

[MadBomber24]

I know you are being sarcastic here, but if I remember correctly, Jamarcus did make that one good throw to Murphy for a touchdown that almost won us the game against San Diego a few years back.

When you consider that throw, it is plain to see that Jamarcus had the talent and it was simply the lack of the OC, the HC, the players and the front office/fans that made Jruss a failure. Deal with it.

Jamarcus had the physical tools sure, but he never had the mental tools (far more important than the physical tools). Even in college the signs where there that he didnt have what it takes to make it. The Raiders didnt do a good job of getting to know him IMO, either that or they ignored all the negative things and focused on his physical abilities like his cannon arm. Despite his bad to terrible accuracy (esspecially on short throws) and his lack of drive the Raiders thought he would be a good player. I remember some of the arguments the media would use as to why the Raiders would take him had nothing to do with Russells ability to play QB. It was A. The Raiders are in desperate need of a QB and B. Russell can throw the ball farther than anyone so he fits what Al Davis likes to run on offense. Most analysts thought Russell could succeed if he worked hard enough and could learn the game. Well he didnt work hard at all as we found out and he was dumb as a box of rocks when it came to learning football as well. He was going to fail no matter where he went or where he wa drafted. The guy simply did not have what it takes. IMO it was obvious before he got drafted. I know quite a few people thought that at the time. I was a lot more upset about the Russell pick then I was about the DHB pick.

[cheapshotartist]

Yards per attempt is the most important attribute for a quarterback..............lmao.....since win? You conveniently left out what is most likely the actual most important statistic from a quarterback:

Rogers: 45 Touchdowns 6 Interceptions
Brady: 39 Touchdowns 12 Interceptions
Schaub: 15 Touchdowns 6 Interceptions
Manning: 29 Touchdowns 16 Interceptions
Brees: 46 Touchdowns 14 Interceptions

Palmers 13 Touchdowns and 16 Interceptions doesnt even come close and is one of the biggest reasons his teams lose more games than they win. I would even allow you to argue that last season shouldnt count due to the "situation". Doesnt change anything, the majority of the guys career looks just like that or close too it! Did alot of good him throwing for all those yards leading his teams to below .500 seasons didnt it!

You can argue all you want about what makes good quarterbacks and bad quarterbacks. The bottom line is, WINNING QUARTERBACKS dont turn the ball over near a 1:1 ratio! That is the only statistic we should care about and that is the biggest statistic that will determine if we win more games than we lose and if Carson is the quarterback of our future or not!

^^^THIS^^^

[NoClapsPlease]

Greg Knapp didn't run the cut block scheme when he was OC of the 49ers in the early 2000's, he picked that up in Atlanta and has used it ever since. Coaches evolve. Why was Carson Palmer watching cutups of the Texans offense during the offseason? Why was Matt Leinart brought in to help Palmer learn the offense? Has Leinart ever been a QB under Knapp as OC? We also signed Brisiel and hired the Texans OL coach.


49ers offense under Knapp (better than anything Hue Jackson has ever done as OC)

2001
Ranked 4th overall
Ranked 14th pass
Ranked 2nd rush
Ranked 3rd scoring

2002
Ranked 8th overall
Ranked 14th pass
Ranked 6th rush
Ranked 13th scoring

2003
Ranked 5th overall
Ranked 10th pass
Ranked 5th rush
Ranked 9th scoring

You realize the Niners ran Steve marriuci's offense, not knapps right? Knapp was strictly a playcaller, it was absolutely not his offense, mooch ran that show.

[MadBomber24]

You realize the Niners ran Steve marriuci's offense, not knapps right? Knapp was strictly a playcaller, it was absolutely not his offense, mooch ran that show.

BS!! Knapp was the OC. He ran the offense. Mooch was a first time HC and was trying to run the whole show. Knapp ran the offense within what Mooch wanted. Just like every other OC in the NFL then and since. Thats why they have an OC and a HC. Even here now Knapp will run the offense but it will be with directions from Allen. Just because Allen is a defensive coach doesnt mean he is going to ignore what happens on offense. The HC is responsible for everything that happens on the team. So its his job to make sure the other coaches know what he wants. So everywhere Knapp has been its been what the HC wanted but Knapp running the O.

[JoeKiev]

You realize the Niners ran Steve marriuci's offense, not knapps right? Knapp was strictly a playcaller, it was absolutely not his offense, mooch ran that show.

They are so pathetic anymore. Wow, just wow.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

I dont think we're going to just run the Texan's playbook verbatim. I'm sure we're going to see the plays that fit our teams' strengths. I think the running backs will still factor heavily into our offense, but they'll be catching the ball as well as running it.

[Raiders Baby!]

Jamarcus had the physical tools sure, but he never had the mental tools (far more important than the physical tools). Even in college the signs where there that he didnt have what it takes to make it. The Raiders didnt do a good job of getting to know him IMO, either that or they ignored all the negative things and focused on his physical abilities like his cannon arm. Despite his bad to terrible accuracy (esspecially on short throws) and his lack of drive the Raiders thought he would be a good player. I remember some of the arguments the media would use as to why the Raiders would take him had nothing to do with Russells ability to play QB. It was A. The Raiders are in desperate need of a QB and B. Russell can throw the ball farther than anyone so he fits what Al Davis likes to run on offense. Most analysts thought Russell could succeed if he worked hard enough and could learn the game. Well he didnt work hard at all as we found out and he was dumb as a box of rocks when it came to learning football as well. He was going to fail no matter where he went or where he wa drafted. The guy simply did not have what it takes. IMO it was obvious before he got drafted. I know quite a few people thought that at the time. I was a lot more upset about the Russell pick then I was about the DHB pick.

I was about equally upset. I didn't want Jamarcus, I wanted Calvin Johnson; Jamarcus only had one really great game in college, it just happened to be the championship game. But at least he had freaksih tools to justify a 1 overall. I couldn't justify the DHB pick. I remember watching a MD game and thinking "that kid is raw but he has the tools, could be a great steal in the 4-5 if he falls that far". When his name was called at 7 overall I honestly thought the sportscasters were joking at first.

[StickShift]

You realize the Niners ran Steve marriuci's offense, not knapps right? Knapp was strictly a playcaller, it was absolutely not his offense, mooch ran that show.

Oh so he only called the plays huh? Well the plays he called led to those top 10, top 5 rankings.

If he wasn't the play caller you may have a point, but since he was, those rankings are his.