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    Quote Originally Posted by als_shadow View Post
    There's very little mystery to anybody's defense. Thry all use 11 players, except when they can get away with more... I've never seen all 11 players rush and I've never seen no players rush...
    so...it is a common occurence that one of the most storied well coached teams in history chooses to not even bother with film when they play us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderFunk View Post
    Nnamdi definitely said they would be getting in trouble for that and even more telling was what McNabb said about us NEVER blitzing, much less zone blitzing so they were not prepared for it. A guy on the o-line for the Pats said on Sirius one time that when it's raider's week bellicheck wouldn't even have the offense watch film. Said there was NO MYSTERY to the Raiders defense...called it a waste of time
    Agreed, but some people would rather kill the messenger (Huff) than face reality. We should all be happy that we will have a modern offense because the old way stopped working a long time ago. Even with the outdated system we had one of the DLines when it comes to getting after the QB. A well planned defense which allows blitzes to come from all angles keeping the offense off-balance is going to be great. Might not happen in 2012 but it is coming!
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    This is what has me most excited about the upcoming season even though their will be some growing pains.Not expecting a new scheme to suddenly fix everything but its a step in the right direction imo.Just letting coaches coach is a step forward,I,m sure RM will hold them accountable...The NFL has changed for the worse over the years so unfortunately the D has to change a little as well.

    I love Huffs enthusiasm,hope it translates to better play on the field.I do think he could have just said he was excited about what our new HC and DC are bringing to the table and left it at that.No need to basically throw mud on AL even if it is or isn,t the truth.

    ChuckieB1 and 2 was a disgrace,he sucked as a DC no matter where coached in the NFL.Can,t see him ever being a DC in the NFL again which has to tell ya how bad the hire was...Our "linebackers coach" defense was the laughing stock of the league.

    Just the fact Chuckles the clown is gone has me pumped,anything else was just a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderInSD21 View Post
    No, I never said I wanted Huff over Polamalu... Geez, I hate when people do that.
    Oh, like saying I was defending Chucky B? That kind of stuff?


    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderInSD21 View Post
    simply saying stats don't matter as much as you're saying, because even TP doesn't stack up that well yet we all know how good he is.
    Now you're comparing a veteran first round pick to a 3rd round supplemental draft guy who doesn't even have a single pre-season under his belt? Uh-huh.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderInSD21 View Post
    Also, I don't think it was that big of a deal what Huff said. He was asked a question and answered it honestly. I'd rather hear that then all the BS politically correct answers we get nowadays from players.
    Throwing the deceased owner under the bus as an excuse for why your tackling sucks doesn't sit well for some of us.

    Whether you agree or disagree with Mr Davis' policies, it serves no purpose at this point slinging mud his way, other than to make you look bad.

    I think Huff is making more excuses for terrible play. Shut your pie hole Huff and prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MileHighRaider View Post
    Oh, like saying I was defending Chucky B? That kind of stuff?
    I did that?

    Now you're comparing a veteran first round pick to a 3rd round supplemental draft guy who doesn't even have a single pre-season under his belt? Uh-huh.
    Troy Polamalu......... and again, never compared them player wise. Told ya to post his stats in regards to the rest of the league on how they can be irrelevant. But for some reason you take that as me comparing him to Huff as a player.



    Throwing the deceased owner under the bus as an excuse for why your tackling sucks doesn't sit well for some of us.

    Whether you agree or disagree with Mr Davis' policies, it serves no purpose at this point slinging mud his way, other than to make you look bad.

    I think Huff is making more excuses for terrible play. Shut your pie hole Huff and prove me wrong.

    I guess you consider that throwing him under the bus, but I don't.
    “Nothing personal but, obviously, before with Al (Davis), rest in peace, he had his hands in all the defense. He had all his little things he liked to do
    Really wasn't that bad. Again, he was asked a question in regards to the new scheme compared to the old and answered it honestly. Fvck PC answers.

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    I like hearing that there are "all kinds of blitzes" .....That means we be disguising stuff and using different looks.
    That said I prefer a man 4-3...just not ran Al's way......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman56 View Post
    This is what has me most excited about the upcoming season even though their will be some growing pains.Not expecting a new scheme to suddenly fix everything but its a step in the right direction imo.Just letting coaches coach is a step forward,I,m sure RM will hold them accountable...The NFL has changed for the worse over the years so unfortunately the D has to change a little as well.

    I love Huffs enthusiasm,hope it translates to better play on the field.I do think he could have just said he was excited about what our new HC and DC are bringing to the table and left it at that.No need to basically throw mud on AL even if it is or isn,t the truth.

    ChuckieB1 and 2 was a disgrace,he sucked as a DC no matter where coached in the NFL.Can,t see him ever being a DC in the NFL again which has to tell ya how bad the hire was...Our "linebackers coach" defense was the laughing stock of the league.

    Just the fact Chuckles the clown is gone has me pumped,anything else was just a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidaguy831 View Post
    How is it possible that bresh was one of the worst D coaches ever if he was with us when we went to the super bowl?Just a question not defending the fool by the way.
    Our offense was a juggernaut that chewed up clock, kept them off the field and playing with a lead. No one would confuse our D that year with the 2000 Ravens, it was just adequate (especially when our offense struggled) despite being fairly talented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MileHighRaider View Post
    He should STFU and play. Too many people here lay our poor performance on Chuck. Chuck didn't miss a single tackle last year as far as I can tell.

    A new, more dynamic scheme will certainly help in some ways but it still comes down to execution and discipline and that's on the players.
    That's what I'm saying MH Huff has not done sh!t yet and he needs to start hitting people. How come no one is getting on his case for bad mouthing Al (RIP)? Everyone was on Aso's azz for saying we were happy to be 8-8 but Huff gets a free pass? I guess current Raider can bad mouth the team but former Raiders have to STFU.


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    Quote Originally Posted by game94501 View Post
    Bro, Ryan was in Cleveland that year. Marshall was DC in 09.


    As far as Belichick, calling a defensive sceme "interesting" isnt exactly giving credit.
    Belichick: Davis still runs the Raiders defense

    I'm often wrong, but never uncertain.

    Clearly we all want to see DA improve the defense, I just thought Huffs comments were inappropriate considering that he could easily be considered a Davis scholarship guy.

    I expect to see Giordano and Branch back there as safeties. Huff moves to nickle and covers the 3rd WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapshotartist View Post
    That's what I'm saying MH Huff has not done sh!t yet and he needs to start hitting people. How come no one is getting on his case for bad mouthing Al (RIP)? Everyone was on Aso's azz for saying we were happy to be 8-8 but Huff gets a free pass? I guess current Raider can bad mouth the team but former Raiders have to STFU.
    My view on this is that I don't mind what he said, I just wish it came from someone else's mouth. I'm not the biggest Huff fan. all I ask is that he now goes out and back his words, because after this the excuses are all used up.

    and to Jeff's comment, i like the 4-3 as well, and I really didn't mind Al's basic philosophies. I just preferred a higher football player to athlete ratio, discipline, fundamentals, and more creative ways to get to the QB.

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    Man, people need to face reality, the truth is the truth, just deal with it for God sakes and quite the bitching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca_Rick View Post
    Man, people need to face reality, the truth is the truth, just deal with it for God sakes and quite the bitching!
    Which truth are you talking about? The truth that Huff is a crappy tackler? That we have a new scheme? That bad-mouthing a person who has passed makes you look like a d-ck??

    There are many "truths" being prophelisized here. You need to be specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worrier View Post
    I'm often wrong, but never uncertain.

    Clearly we all want to see DA improve the defense, I just thought Huffs comments were inappropriate considering that he could easily be considered a Davis scholarship guy.

    I expect to see Giordano and Branch back there as safeties. Huff moves to nickle and covers the 3rd WR.
    It's amazing to me how many people were calling for Huff to be cut before camp. I wonder how many are now backing him in this thread in spite of pedestrian reports from OTAs and the minicamp.

    Don't get me wrong. I've consistently said I would like him to become a good player. My beef is with ANY player, particularly a marginal one, spewing venom from his pie hole while failing to perform. Or even while performing, which clearly is not the case here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapshotartist View Post
    That's what I'm saying MH Huff has not done sh!t yet and he needs to start hitting people. How come no one is getting on his case for bad mouthing Al (RIP)? Everyone was on Aso's azz for saying we were happy to be 8-8 but Huff gets a free pass? I guess current Raider can bad mouth the team but former Raiders have to STFU.
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