Oakland Raiders minicamp day 1: Standouts and sit outs

[raiderrocker18]

Pryor's struggles aren't really that unexpected. He never even lived up to his college potential. But fortunately we have him in a position where:
a) he doesn't have to be the primary backup if he's not ready, because Lienart can fill that role
b) he doesn't have to be ready to start for a few years because its not like Palmer is very old

[cheapshotartist]

Thanks Ran...I enjoyed that read.....but I'm not gonna jump out of my socks when were talkin' bout' practice

Not a game, not a game but PRACTICE!

It's a shame that not much progress has happened with Pryor!

It's day one of Mini Camp and Pryor's not looking like Dan Marino, the season is lost.

Disappointing to hear that Pryor's still struggling

This is why you have Mini Camp, OTA's, Training Camp and the preseason, Pryor is learning the pro game he is not our starting QB and most likely will be our #3. Why not wait and see how this all works out before getting disappointed?

[regret]

Thanks for the info, Ran. I kind of figured there'd be some Pryor chatter after reading it because we haven't had a true project QB here in a while. I think some folks don't quite understand that if dude has to see the field anytime in the next two years, we've got serious issues. Good NFL quarterbacks, the ball often won't touch the ground in practice. Pryor has trouble handing the ball off. This isn't a cheap shot on the guy, just an indication of the gulf he has to cross to become a legitimate starter. I'm glad that RM seems comfortable giving him the time he needs to develop because I really want Al to hit paydirt one last time.

[crizpynutz]

"Terrell Pryor continued to have issues. Same old dead horse, really. Floating long balls, low/behind on short passes, yada, yada, yada. He also had a fumbled exchange on a handoff to Taiwan Jones. To his credit, he did pick it up in seven on seven drills and completed some nice passes. But once the linemen came in and the rush was coming, he was caught holding the ball too long and would have been sacked a couple times."

Uh-oh. I liked it better when I had no idea how he was doing.

I think all those fans calling for Pryor to be the starter this offseason may be thinking the same thing. Or not, I don't know.

[cheapshotartist]

Thanks for the info, Ran. I kind of figured there'd be some Pryor chatter after reading it because we haven't had a true project QB here in a while. I think some folks don't quite understand that if dude has to see the field anytime in the next two years, we've got serious issues. Good NFL quarterbacks, the ball often won't touch the ground in practice. Pryor has trouble handing the ball off. This isn't a cheap shot on the guy, just an indication of the gulf he has to cross to become a legitimate starter. I'm glad that RM seems comfortable giving him the time he needs to develop because I really want Al to hit paydirt one last time.

I agree it amazes me how so many fans just don't understand how hard it is to be a NFL QB. Pryor has a lot to learn but there is no hurry, CP is the starter and #7 is the back up. Period. Pryor will not see the field in 2012 unless CP and #7 go down our suck out of this world. It's up to DA and RM on how to handle Pryor and they have my trust. If it was left up to some members on this board Pryor would be on the street the first time he made a mistake. Not saying Pryor will be the next Rodgers but Rodgers rode the pine for four seasons before he got to start and we all know how that worked out. None of us know how Pryor will develope only Time will tell.

[RI Raider]

Give Pryor a chance. We do not need him now, so lets get him out there while we can (nobody can dispute, he does seem to have the right attitude). Who knows. Two years from now, he can look good in a couple of exhibition games, and his value will sky rocket. Its amazing what QB's are worth if they look good in a few meaningless games.

[cheapshotartist]

Give Pryor a chance. We do not need him now, so lets get him out there while we can (nobody can dispute, he does seem to have the right attitude). Who knows. Two years from now, he can look good in a couple of exhibition games, and his value will sky rocket. Its amazing what QB's are worth if they look good in a few meaningless games.

Word! Look at the contracts Kolb and Flynn got and neither one has done sh!t as a NFL QB.

[RunOvrByHubbard]

We will get our first look at Pryor in the preseason games. Really looking forward to that. Hopefully he is not taking off and running very much. I am more worried about Leinert performing well this summer. He holds a key position on the team.

[heavyD]

I think all those fans calling for Pryor to be the starter this offseason may be thinking the same thing. Or not, I don't know.

This is what annoyed me and others. If anyone listens to scouts anymore the guy was projected by everyone as a project yet we had these annoying fans calling for him to be backup and push Palmer for the starting position which is just absurd and ridiculous. As a Raiders fan I surely don't want him to fail but I also don't live my life with my head in the clouds and the Pryor hype machine got old fast.

Best thing that could happen to Pryor is for his name simply not to be mentioned this year. Let him quietly work on the fundamentals and learn from Palmer and Leinart. The guy never got a chance to fully learn Hue's offense and less than a year later he's learning another. It's to be expected he's not going to look good while he picks things up so let's not call him a bust or failure and please let's not call him backup/starter material. Let the guy find his way and hopefully a year from now we start hearing about progress.

[JoeKiev]

I think Pryor has the potential to be the next Joe Montana. It'll be close.

[RaiderFan39]

I REALLY hope the D. Moore injury is nothing serious. Nice info, Thanks.

Uhhh-greeeed! Uhg. I want this guy in full (with the rest) this season to see what he truly has to offer for an entire season!

-signed,

"Somewhat Worried"

[gil03]

I think it's safe to say that Pryor will be our 3 this year.

[heavyD]

I think it's safe to say that Pryor will be our 3 this year.

I don't think that was ever really in doubt. It will be interesting to see how he fares in preseason games regardless of the fact he will face face mostly rookies and 1st cuts of opposing defenses. Would be nice to see him move the ball up the field and get a feel for the speed of the pro game.

[Towner13]

For me personally... Hearing anything positive about Leinart in OTAs training camp or even preseason games will not make me comfortable with him as a back up.

Fans of 31 other teams have not changed their opinion on Leinart... and rightfully so. He has had 7 seasons in the NFL. (Man, time flies!)

Had he signed with the Miami Dolphins, 99.9% of the people on this very board who are "happy" we signed him would be talking trash about what a bust he was.

How I relate that to Pryor.... On the converse side of the "OTA/Training camp success" comment, I am hoping for any signs of hope out of Pryor or even this Newhall-Caballaro kid to counter the doubt that should be heaped upon 7 year failure Matt Leinart.

I will say this... One thing I would like about Pryor being a 3 is the fact that we could put him in for some other positions to see how he fares with little risk.

[heavyD]

For me personally... Hearing anything positive about Leinart in OTAs training camp or even preseason games will not make me comfortable with him as a back up.

I am very comfortable with Leinart possibly having to start a game or two in the regular season. The fact that a contending team like the Texans had faith in him starting the remainder of what was a critical season for Kubiak's job security tells me they thought the guy can play. Starting his rookie career in Arizona under Green is almost as bad a place for a rookie to start his career in Oakland under Davis and he's supposedly far more mature now compared to early in his career when he was a little too Hollywood. I don't think there will ever be a starting QB controversy in Oakland but the QB position hasn't been this solid for a decade.